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Simon Pegg, Doug Jung To Write Star Trek 3
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I feel as if I'm missing something. To what are you referring here?
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Well, first of all: I love Simon Pegg!
Second:
Everything speaks against him writing the new movie being a success: They have a tight deadline, apparently the script is crap (otherwise Paramount wouldn't have fired Bob Orci from the directors AND the writers chair). They have a new director (who, to his credit, got the tone of the Fast & Furious - franchise right, so maybe he can get the tone of another franchise right). But there is literally no time left to completely write a new script or visualize a new movie, they HAVE to work with what has already been done to this point and just re-work it to deliver the anniversary date.
And even though I love Simon Pegg as a writer, I think he really only shines when he's writing together with Edgar Wright (spaced, the cornetto trilogy). Everything he has done without Edgar is kind of dull. It has a few neat ideas, but no coherent view of the whole picture. I think it's usually Edgar Wright who comes up with a whole new vision and Simon Pegg who fills it with some funny ideas. Let's hope Justin Lin and the other writer have a coherent idea for the film, so that Pegg can shine bringing life to it.
And finally:
I still think this movie will be great.
Why?
Well, because:
Star Trek: The Motion Picture (bad)
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (good)
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock (bad)
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (good)
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier (bad)
Star Trek VI: The undiscovered country (good)
Star Trek: Generations (bad)
Star Trek: First Contact (good)
Star Trek: Insurrection (bad)
Galaxy Quest (good)
Star Trek: Nemesis (bad)
Star Trek (good)
Star Trek into Darkness (bad)
Star Trek 2016 (HAS to be good!)
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Everything speaks against him writing the new movie being a success: They have a tight deadline, apparently the script is crap (otherwise Paramount wouldn't have fired Bob Orci from the directors AND the writers chair). They have a new director (who, to his credit, got the tone of the Fast & Furious - franchise right, so maybe he can get the tone of another franchise right). But there is literally no time left to completely write a new script or visualize a new movie, they HAVE to work with what has already been done to this point and just re-work it to deliver the anniversary date.
And even though I love Simon Pegg as a writer, I think he really only shines when he's writing together with Edgar Wright (spaced, the cornetto trilogy). Everything he has done without Edgar is kind of dull. It has a few neat ideas, but no coherent view of the whole picture. I think it's usually Edgar Wright who comes up with a whole new vision and Simon Pegg who fills it with some funny ideas. Let's hope Justin Lin and the other writer have a coherent idea for the film, so that Pegg can shine bringing life to it.
And finally:
I still think this movie will be great.
Why?
Well, because:
Star Trek: The Motion Picture (bad)
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (good)
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock (bad)
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (good)
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier (bad)
Star Trek VI: The undiscovered country (good)
Star Trek: Generations (bad)
Star Trek: First Contact (good)
Star Trek: Insurrection (bad)
Galaxy Quest (good)
Star Trek: Nemesis (bad)
Star Trek (good)
Star Trek into Darkness (bad)
Star Trek 2016 (HAS to be good!)
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That would make me go ot, suffice to say he's one of the defenders of a famous comedy director who is an alleged pedophile. As for the rest, it's obvious to me from his scripts and the stuff he says in interviews that he's partial to the male characters and the dynamics between them. He doesn't seem to be that different from some trek fanboys who see characters like Uhura as eye candy only. He also seems to have, like many comedians it seems, an attitude problem when people criticize his job or the movies he's in e.g., his 'fu%k you you are just envious' to the fans who disliked stid and then his following attempt to blame his faux pas on the interviewer - who had recorded the interview anyway.
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That would make me go ot, suffice to say he's one of the defenders of a famous comedy director who is an alleged pedophile. As for the rest, it's obvious to me from his scripts and the stuff he says in interviews that he's partial to the male characters and the dynamics between them. He doesn't seem to be that different from some trek fanboys who see characters like Uhura as eye candy only. He also seems to have, like many comedians it seems, an attitude problem when people criticize his job or the movies he's in e.g., his 'fu%k you you are just envious' to the fans who disliked stid and then his following attempt to blame his faux pas on the interviewer - who had recorded the interview anyway.
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Is there really enough time to do this now? I mean filming starts April 15, less than 3 months. They have to hammer out a new script, get approval, then start pre-production in building all the sets, etc and have all that ready for filming by April 15? If they work too fast the story seems to end up being crap with not enough thought be given to it - a total rush job and I'm afraid it will come across on screen that way - HUGE mistake.
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Oh, there's plenty of time. No need to worry.
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Oh, there's plenty of time. No need to worry.
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FTFY
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Wrong. You've left out something very, very important.
It's an important word, really the most important one in your entire post. Do you respect the meaning of it, at all?
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Malaika said:
Wrong. You've left out something very, very important.
You already are...
That's better. You finally remembered the word "alleged."
It's an important word, really the most important one in your entire post. Do you respect the meaning of it, at all?
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You put the quote wrong, that was said by me not the mod
As for your nitpicking about my vocabulary and choice of words..but not Pegg's, of course. It doesn't seem to me that the defenders of that director, including Simon, gave to the alleged victim the benefit of the doubt.
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You put the quote wrong, that was said by me not the mod
As for your nitpicking about my vocabulary and choice of words..but not Pegg's, of course. It doesn't seem to me that the defenders of that director, including Simon, gave to the alleged victim the benefit of the doubt.
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No reason to assume they'd have to. Again, not every movie from the same director has the same tone. There are countless examples of directors who've done a wide range of different kinds of movie. Saving Private Ryan is not like Raiders of the Lost Ark. A Simple Plan is not like Army of Darkness. Three Men and a Baby is not like The Search for Spock. Most creative people like to stretch themselves, to try new things and vary their output.
Again: In feature films, the screenwriters have zero power. They're seen as hired hands whose job is to give the producers or the directors what they want. It doesn't matter who writes a single draft of a script, because most big films these days go through dozens of drafts from multiple different writers who are treated as basically interchangeable. Nothing that any screenwriter puts on paper is going to be binding on the director if the director wants to do something different. The writer's job is to satisfy the director and the producers, to conform to their wishes. This is why there are so many feature screenwriters with such inconsistent records -- an Oscar-winner one year, a work of total idiocy the next. It's because writers don't make the final creative decisions in movies, directors and producers do. Any script can be rewritten at a moment's notice or transformed unrecognizably during filming and editing.
Believe me, I wish that writers had the kind of power in the feature industry that you believe Pegg will have here. Then maybe we wouldn't get so many films that have terrific directing and acting and production values but fall apart because they have flimsy and incoherent scripts. But it just isn't so.
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No reason to assume they'd have to. Again, not every movie from the same director has the same tone. There are countless examples of directors who've done a wide range of different kinds of movie. Saving Private Ryan is not like Raiders of the Lost Ark. A Simple Plan is not like Army of Darkness. Three Men and a Baby is not like The Search for Spock. Most creative people like to stretch themselves, to try new things and vary their output.
Again: In feature films, the screenwriters have zero power. They're seen as hired hands whose job is to give the producers or the directors what they want. It doesn't matter who writes a single draft of a script, because most big films these days go through dozens of drafts from multiple different writers who are treated as basically interchangeable. Nothing that any screenwriter puts on paper is going to be binding on the director if the director wants to do something different. The writer's job is to satisfy the director and the producers, to conform to their wishes. This is why there are so many feature screenwriters with such inconsistent records -- an Oscar-winner one year, a work of total idiocy the next. It's because writers don't make the final creative decisions in movies, directors and producers do. Any script can be rewritten at a moment's notice or transformed unrecognizably during filming and editing.
Believe me, I wish that writers had the kind of power in the feature industry that you believe Pegg will have here. Then maybe we wouldn't get so many films that have terrific directing and acting and production values but fall apart because they have flimsy and incoherent scripts. But it just isn't so.
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Ok I get what you are saying but honestly it seems to be a stretch that the writers have zero power.
Come on...
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Ok I get what you are saying but honestly it seems to be a stretch that the writers have zero power.
Come on...
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I'm not talking to Simon Pegg. I'm talking to you. Take responsibility.
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I'm not talking to Simon Pegg. I'm talking to you. Take responsibility.
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Oh dear I found the fan..
Will you take legal action against me because I'm being wrong on the internet? Maybe I'm lucky and you'll just turn the whole topic into a lecture about that word but I guess I should be worried about my inbox now.
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Oh dear I found the fan..
Will you take legal action against me because I'm being wrong on the internet? Maybe I'm lucky and you'll just turn the whole topic into a lecture about that word but I guess I should be worried about my inbox now.
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Oh, tch, relax. The movie isn't going to be more than two hours, and even if there's like an hour of cut or deleted or alternate scenes, well, I'm sure the writers can find three whole hours to type up a script by April. Many of them can touch-type many of the letters, you know!
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Oh, tch, relax. The movie isn't going to be more than two hours, and even if there's like an hour of cut or deleted or alternate scenes, well, I'm sure the writers can find three whole hours to type up a script by April. Many of them can touch-type many of the letters, you know!
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Well, I don't have much to say, and it's certainly been said before.
Make it so, Mr. Pegg. I'm confident.
Make it so, Mr. Pegg. I'm confident.
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From what I've seen, most of the stuff Pegg has writing credits on has been pretty well done.
I'm not a huge fan of his, but he's clearly a MASSIVE upgrade over Orci.
I've been pretty down on ST3, but this gives me at least a little bit of hope.
I'm not a huge fan of his, but he's clearly a MASSIVE upgrade over Orci.
I've been pretty down on ST3, but this gives me at least a little bit of hope.
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Poor guy. We could get Sally Struthers to do a lump-in-her-throat-teary-eyed plea to send him donations.
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Poor guy. We could get Sally Struthers to do a lump-in-her-throat-teary-eyed plea to send him donations.
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I'm just going to let you know now that you're barking up the wrong tree, and it would probably be best for you to relax before you look very foolish.
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