"Agent Carter" season one discussion and spoilers
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^'65-'66 is the sweet spot in the chronological iTunes playlists that I've been working on. Massive and chock full of great music. Pretty much everybody who was anybody at the time was on their A-game in that period.
I think not having Gabe Jones is disappointing. Of course, that can actually be something worth exploring. The black member of the Howling Commandos is also pushed out of service come peacetime.
But they've cast Leonard Roberts as Sawyer, so he's also black in the MCU. (Which makes him a second candidate for being Triplett's grandfather, assuming they keep his identity as a member of the Commandos.)
I do. I remember the kids in my junior high saying "dude" in imitation of surfers (even though we were on the east coast), and that was the early 70s.
(When my son was younger, he would bristle every time I said "dude" -- which tends to be fairly often -- because he thought I was trying to be hip like the young kids.
It took a long time to convince him that his generation didn't invent the term.)
Fair enough. Although it makes it a bit of a shame they couldn't get Gabe Jones back.
From Wikipedia:
Mental Floss says it probably came from Yankee Doodle.
Still, I'd say that there is a modern usage of "dude" that wasn't around in the '60s or '70s -- as an interjection, as in when someone sees something startling or impressive and goes, "Duuude." Which I suppose came about similarly to the use of "Man!" in the same context. I'm thinking maybe that's the sense that Forbin was talking about, since there's an exclamation point there.
I have the impression that Fonzie in Happy Days called people "dudes and dudettes," but I don't recall for sure. And if he did, was that '50s slang or '70s slang being passed off as '50s slang?
^^I don't remember Fonzie ever saying "dude" or "dudette." I dont remember where I first heard them, but it sounds like something that came later, from the Fast Times or Bill and Ted era.
Okay, then, I'm probably thinking of some later character. Maybe it was Bill and Ted.
I don't think it was "Bill and Ted" either. Back in mis-spent youth, my friends and I used to play "Bill and Ted's Excellent Drinking Game". Basically, we popped in B&T, and drank every time a character said "dude", "excellent", or "whoa". To this day, I still have the first half of that movie memorized. I don't remember anybody saying "dudette".
It could have been somewhere else, too. There was a lot of "culture" going on in the 80s.
One thing about That 70s Show: They got the look pretty much right on. A lot of it was like watching high school, from the outside looking in.
I'm pretty sure from my own recollection that the use of "dude" in discussion goes back at least to the early/mid-80s.
I take it that it's a deliberate conceit of the show, but I used to leave The Goldbergs on after AoS last season, and their '80s chronology was all over the place. One episode they'd be referencing something from the early '80s as if it were something new and in vogue (Tron); the next they'd be covering an event with a specific date from the middle of the decade (Capone's vault); the next they had to be in very late '89 (When Harry Met Sally on home video).
It also bugged me when Friends showed Chandler wearing A Flock of Seagulls hair in a 1987 flashback episode. It was a cute callback to a reference that had been dropped in an earlier episode...but it would have fit a lot better in '83 or '84. The lead singer of A Flock of Seagulls himself had gotten rid of that hairstyle by '85.
I take it that it's a deliberate conceit of the show, but I used to leave The Goldbergs on after AoS last season, and their '80s chronology was all over the place. One episode they'd be referencing something from the early '80s as if it were something new and in vogue (Tron); the next they'd be covering an event with a specific date from the middle of the decade (Capone's vault); the next they had to be in very late '89 (When Harry Met Sally on home video).
It also bugged me when Friends showed Chandler wearing A Flock of Seagulls hair in a 1987 flashback episode. It was a cute callback to a reference that had been dropped in an earlier episode...but it would have fit a lot better in '83 or '84. The lead singer of A Flock of Seagulls himself had gotten rid of that hairstyle by '85.
The Goldbergs references are all over the place, but if you can overlook that it's a funny show.
Chandler's hair in that episode was funny. Thinking back just now, I remember a lot of hairstyles in real life that overstayed their welcome.
More to the point, no one not in the band had that hairstyle.
When it comes to Friends goofs, I'm more annoyed by the Princess Leia outfit that mixed together the ROTJ metal bikini with the ANH hairstyle. What the hell???
Yeah, I can remember listening to my little transistor radio and liking everything played during that time.
The Ninja Turtles, most likely.
Finally got around to watching the first two episodes and I quite enjoyed them. I do really like the look and feel of this "period piece" and some of the 1940's "spy technology." The watch device Peggy used to open the safe seemed a little silly but I did like the remote "texting" machine hooked to the typewriter.
I sort-of agree with above posters that the 1940's sexism stuff is overplayed a touch but, at the same time, people were pretty darn shitty towards women back then.
Hayley Atwell? Man, gorgeous, gorgeous woman. Stunning. And that accent? Whooo. Makes me melt.
And she's doing a great job playing the strong-willed Agent Carter as well. I do hope later episodes show more of her "getting in good" with the "boys club" she works with to show how she eventually becomes so crucial in the SSR and the formation of SHIELD.
Not quite liking Jarvis too much he seems to be too much the "stereotypical fussy butler" type at this point.
Period things like the look of the sets like the little details of the murphy bed in the apartment, the art-deco-like designs of some of the locations, the cars, all good-looking stuff, costuming is great too. Love the Captain America radio program as well.
I've not watched the third-episode yet, but generally I'm liking the series.
I sort-of agree with above posters that the 1940's sexism stuff is overplayed a touch but, at the same time, people were pretty darn shitty towards women back then.
Hayley Atwell? Man, gorgeous, gorgeous woman. Stunning. And that accent? Whooo. Makes me melt.
And she's doing a great job playing the strong-willed Agent Carter as well. I do hope later episodes show more of her "getting in good" with the "boys club" she works with to show how she eventually becomes so crucial in the SSR and the formation of SHIELD.
Not quite liking Jarvis too much he seems to be too much the "stereotypical fussy butler" type at this point.
Period things like the look of the sets like the little details of the murphy bed in the apartment, the art-deco-like designs of some of the locations, the cars, all good-looking stuff, costuming is great too. Love the Captain America radio program as well.
I've not watched the third-episode yet, but generally I'm liking the series.
Did you have to literally put these two paragraphs back to back?
Guess it just happened that way. But, admiring a beautiful woman isn't quite the same as the demeaning way the character is treated by her co-workers at the SSR where she's treated as a silly woman incapable of doing the same work as men. (In fact, I'm not even sure the men have made any too crude of remarks about her looks.)
Haley Atwell is a very good looking woman, there's no shame in saying that. I'm not saying she needs to put on a skirt and stay in the kitchen and let men do the man-work. I'm just saying she's attractive.
The 60s is my happy place.
We used the word, but not as a greeting or monosyllabic interjection; just as a synonym for "guy." As in, "I saw Terry out with some dude last night."
It's time compression. Once a decade becomes nostalgia, it happened all at once.
Sexuality is not sexism.
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