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Re-doing Voyager

CHARACTERS:
Elizabeth Shelby as Captain. Her first command, out to prove she has what it takes to brandish the fourth pip. Not as 'motherly'. Still confident, cocky and decisive--though that hides her anxiety about their situation.

Have Chakotay from a real tribe, with an established culture and beliefs to draw upon. Make him more aggressive and adversarial to begin with, someone who can really but heads with Shelby until put in his place.

Keep Tuvok as the Captain's closest friend and confidante, the only person she truly confides in. Her closeness to and trust in Tuvok should be a point of irritation to her supposed First Officer.

Make Paris homosexual (or at least bisexual), with a more roguish air. Rather than being kicked out of Starfleet, make him leave to go and kill Cardassians--after they murdered his significant other.

Hark back to the original idea with Torres, and have Tuvok become a mentor figure to her (as he would have once been to Shelby) to help her find a little peace with herself--though still opposed to Klingon pomp and ceremony.

Turn Harry Kim into Hryan Kem, a Bolian chief petty officer. More experienced in Starfleet but not so much in a senior role. Used as the voice of the non-coms and a look into how the average crewmember deals with their new mission.

Remove the EMH and replace it with an inexperienced young doctor/intern, thrust into such an important role without being prepared for it. Most likely human, though open to any race or gender.

Turn Neelix more into Han Solo, a scoundrel with a heart of gold, someone you could actually believe would be able to survive in such a harsh neck of the woods. Total redesign of make-up as well, not to cutesy/goofy.

Kes won't leave the series. Give her an extra couple of years lifespan, but make more of her intellect and mental abilities. As the innocent one onboard, more should be seen through her perspective for the awe and wonder they are.

If Seven is introduced, make the character male though in the same catsuits (give others the chance to ogle). His introduction will not be at the expense of all other characters, though his journey will be a hard one.


CONTINUITY:
Have the show more serialised, a few stand alone episodes now and then, but (especially to begin with) the struggle should be on how to survive and how to pull together. Damage sustained will build up, meaning solutions other than fighting their way out need to be sought. Ramp up the uncertainty of the ships survival and the fact they are completely cut off from home.

Keep track of just how many crewmembers, shuttles and torpedoes there are. If replaced make at least one mention of the fact they can now do that.

Establish a good number of interesting and well-developed reoccurring crewmembers (see DS9 for pointers), who can be used and even killed off when necessary. In this category, keep Seska onboard and slowly return to active duty after her true identity is revealed--for added tension and conflict among the crew.

Restrict the number of Borg episodes, even when encountered the ship won't always be the clear winner--after all it is just a single starship against the entire Collective. Also no Q (or at least stop after one guest appearance).

More focus on character arcs and development and less on aliens of the week and space battles. More plots on actual exploration and the true marvels they find than on how evil some random species is.
 
CHARACTERS:
Elizabeth Shelby as Captain. Her first command, out to prove she has what it takes to brandish the fourth pip. Not as 'motherly'. Still confident, cocky and decisive--though that hides her anxiety about their situation.
....

Not to mention, easy on the eyes, no offence to the Janeway fans.
 
Changes to the characters:

Janeway: I wouldn't change her that much, just maybe I'd change her off-duty interests to something that framed her personality better. Like maybe she'd recreate strong female authority figures from history and the situations she'd be in would start out as diplomatic situations then gradually drift to more combat situations.

Chakotay: I'd balance out his spiritualism a little more with science so he didn't come off as the *only* heavily superstitious character. Also I'd put him in action roles more often.

Tuvok: No changes.

Paris: Keep him a little more distrustful of authority. He'd learn to live within the rules of Voyager but he'd be the one questioning the captain's idealism more.

B'elana: Keep her early show characteristics a little more potent. Not breaking things and getting in fights all over the place, but keep her temper around and focus on her engineering genius.

Kim: Start him out the same, but as the series goes on he becomes stronger and more independent and less obsessed with pleasing authority figures instead of staying as Paris's Troy.

I'd draw a comparison to Nick from early CSI episodes. He was very eager to please at the beginning. Then in the episode where he showed he was no longer interesting in just pleasing Grissom, he got a promotion. I would have done the same with Kim.

Doctor: No changes, just maybe fewer holographic rights episodes.

Neelix: Make the annoying parts of his personality more of an external veneer to his real personality which is more selfish and Quarkish. Stop pairing him with Tuvok in episodes.

Kes: No changes, just don't write her out and make her discovery of telepathic abilities more of a running thing.

Seven: No changes, except give her a real uniform instead of a skin tight catsuit.
 
Make Paris homosexual (or at least bisexual), with a more roguish air. Rather than being kicked out of Starfleet, make him leave to go and kill Cardassians--after they murdered his significant other.

Turn Neelix more into Han Solo, a scoundrel with a heart of gold, someone you could actually believe would be able to survive in such a harsh neck of the woods. Total redesign of make-up as well, not to cutesy/goofy.

Kes won't leave the series. Give her an extra couple of years lifespan, but make more of her intellect and mental abilities. As the innocent one onboard, more should be seen through her perspective for the awe and wonder they are.

Literal Tom-Kes-Neelix love triangle, with each party attracted to the two others? I like that, especially if it eventually would settle into a different kind of relationship between the tree.
On a more serious note, would that not make Tom and Neelix too similar? Two space rogues sounds a bit redundant.

Remove the EMH and replace it with an inexperienced young doctor/intern, thrust into such an important role without being prepared for it. Most likely human, though open to any race or gender.

Obviously I approve of that, inexperienced intern struggling to do their best trumps egotistical jerk-ass any day.
On that not would your new Kes still be a nurse? Maybe she could fill the role of the medic completely, giving her a stornger presence on the show and a more defined role.

I also like your plans for Seska, I think she should at the very least have been a main character until her reveal.
 
CHARACTERS:
Elizabeth Shelby as Captain. Her first command, out to prove she has what it takes to brandish the fourth pip. Not as 'motherly'. Still confident, cocky and decisive--though that hides her anxiety about their situation.
....

Not to mention, easy on the eyes, no offence to the Janeway fans.

So it's okay for TNG to have a handsome older man (Patrick Stewart) as Captain but the first major Female Captain has to be some young hot thing?
 
So it's okay for TNG to have a handsome older man (Patrick Stewart) as Captain but the first major Female Captain has to be some young hot thing?

Elizabeth Dennehey and Kate Mulgrew are only five years apart in age. Hardly the difference between "older" and "young hot thing" (and neither of them were anywhere near Patrick Stewart's age).
 
Well, when Mulgrew started as Janeway she was only 6-7 years younger than Stewart was when he started being Picard.

But yeah, I'm willing to bet the audience would've been more accepting of a CW Female Actress as Captain.
 
Make Paris homosexual (or at least bisexual), with a more roguish air. Rather than being kicked out of Starfleet, make him leave to go and kill Cardassians--after they murdered his significant other.

Turn Neelix more into Han Solo, a scoundrel with a heart of gold, someone you could actually believe would be able to survive in such a harsh neck of the woods. Total redesign of make-up as well, not to cutesy/goofy.

Kes won't leave the series. Give her an extra couple of years lifespan, but make more of her intellect and mental abilities. As the innocent one onboard, more should be seen through her perspective for the awe and wonder they are.

Literal Tom-Kes-Neelix love triangle, with each party attracted to the two others? I like that, especially if it eventually would settle into a different kind of relationship between the tree.
On a more serious note, would that not make Tom and Neelix too similar? Two space rogues sounds a bit redundant.

Remove the EMH and replace it with an inexperienced young doctor/intern, thrust into such an important role without being prepared for it. Most likely human, though open to any race or gender.

Obviously I approve of that, inexperienced intern struggling to do their best trumps egotistical jerk-ass any day.
On that not would your new Kes still be a nurse? Maybe she could fill the role of the medic completely, giving her a stornger presence on the show and a more defined role.

I also like your plans for Seska, I think she should at the very least have been a main character until her reveal.

I like the idea of Kes as a nurse. I think she would be a better choice than Paris, who, frankly, has enough to do without being the jack-of-all trades guy of the show.
 
Well, when Mulgrew started as Janeway she was only 6-7 years younger than Stewart was when he started being Picard.

But yeah, I'm willing to bet the audience would've been more accepting of a CW Female Actress as Captain.

Dennehy and Mulgrew were both playing younger characters than Stewart.

Janeway, like Shelby, isn't supposed to be a veteran starship commander with decades of command experience under her belt. She's probably supposed to be relatively green. At one point she claimed it had been nineteen years since she was in high school, so she's probably in the 30-40 year old bracket (which tallies with the actresses own age; Mulgrew was 39 during Voyager's first season). But a biog screen in "The Killing Game" claims that Janeway was born in 2344, so if we take that as definitive, and there have been no other official sources to confirm or deny it, then the character she played must have been considerably younger than the actress who played her (Janeway being in her late twenties when she assumed command of Voyager).

Although Stewart was only in his fifties when he took on the role of Picard, he was playing a character a couple decades older than he was in real-life. Stewart was playing older, Mulgrew was playing younger.

All of this is surprisingly difficult to nail down. :confused:
 
Well, when Mulgrew started as Janeway she was only 6-7 years younger than Stewart was when he started being Picard.

But yeah, I'm willing to bet the audience would've been more accepting of a CW Female Actress as Captain.

Dennehy and Mulgrew were both playing younger characters than Stewart.

Janeway, like Shelby, isn't supposed to be a veteran starship commander with decades of command experience under her belt. She's probably supposed to be relatively green. At one point she claimed it had been nineteen years since she was in high school, so she's probably in the 30-40 year old bracket (which tallies with the actresses own age; Mulgrew was 39 during Voyager's first season). But a biog screen in "The Killing Game" claims that Janeway was born in 2344, so if we take that as definitive, and there have been no other official sources to confirm or deny it, then the character she played must have been considerably younger than the actress who played her (Janeway being in her late twenties when she assumed command of Voyager).

Although Stewart was only in his fifties when he took on the role of Picard, he was playing a character a couple decades older than he was in real-life. Stewart was playing older, Mulgrew was playing younger.

All of this is surprisingly difficult to nail down. :confused:
In DS9's You Are Cordially Invited Jadzia talks about a captain Shelby that owes her a favor, I wonder if it is the same one.
 
Literal Tom-Kes-Neelix love triangle, with each party attracted to the two others? I like that, especially if it eventually would settle into a different kind of relationship between the tree.
Hadn't thought of that love triangle, but definitely worth exploring.

On a more serious note, would that not make Tom and Neelix too similar? Two space rogues sounds a bit redundant.
Paris would be a more angry, resentful character, grief-stricken and looked for a way to lash out at those that hurt him--lots of emotional issues to get over. Neelix would be more of a thief-with-swagger, someone used to taking extreme chances and risks, smooth talking his way out of situations.

Obviously I approve of that, inexperienced intern struggling to do their best trumps egotistical jerk-ass any day.

On that not would your new Kes still be a nurse? Maybe she could fill the role of the medic completely, giving her a stornger presence on the show and a more defined role.
The concept of the EMH was interesting, but after he got the mobile emitter it was all downhill from there. I'd think the new CMO would be the last Starfleet medic onboard, so Kes would still be the ship's nurse--though would go to the role with some knowledge/experience as a herbalist. She would also be the one they would come to lean on to get through the hard times--I would envision a story on addiction with the new doc, as they are alone in facing an entire quadrant of new viruses, bacteria and parasites, whilst still being very green.

I also like your plans for Seska, I think she should at the very least have been a main character until her reveal.
She was a wasted opportunity. I never understood why she left for the Kazon, her ultimate plan was never revealed and seemed to have no focus. Keeping her on the ship would be far more interesting.

CHARACTERS:
Elizabeth Shelby as Captain. Her first command, out to prove she has what it takes to brandish the fourth pip. Not as 'motherly'. Still confident, cocky and decisive--though that hides her anxiety about their situation.
....

Not to mention, easy on the eyes, no offence to the Janeway fans.

So it's okay for TNG to have a handsome older man (Patrick Stewart) as Captain but the first major Female Captain has to be some young hot thing?
My thinking was that we've seen experienced and older captain's, in a situation as extreme as this how would a rookie CO cope/deal with what they were facing (also I like the idea of an established character reprising their role). Not being interested in women-folk her appearance never entered my mind.
 
^ From what he says in "Caretaker" is sounds as though whatever happened was his fault--pilot error. Exactly what that was we never did find out.
 
At least 3 people died due to Paris' mistake, according to what he tells Harry.

CHARACTERS:
Elizabeth Shelby as Captain. Her first command, out to prove she has what it takes to brandish the fourth pip. Not as 'motherly'. Still confident, cocky and decisive--though that hides her anxiety about their situation.
....

Not to mention, easy on the eyes, no offence to the Janeway fans.

So it's okay for TNG to have a handsome older man (Patrick Stewart) as Captain but the first major Female Captain has to be some young hot thing?

It's all perpective. I'm 4 years older than Kate Mulgrew, so she was a hot young thing from where I sit.
 
At least 3 people died due to Paris' mistake, according to what he tells Harry.

Not to mention, easy on the eyes, no offence to the Janeway fans.

So it's okay for TNG to have a handsome older man (Patrick Stewart) as Captain but the first major Female Captain has to be some young hot thing?

It's all perpective. I'm 4 years older than Kate Mulgrew, so she was a hot young thing from where I sit.
It's hard to believe but Pulaski used to be hot too.
 
According to the book "Mosaic, written by Jeri Taylor, Janeway met Riker at Starfleet Academy. Tyey were obviously at the same age. In that case, Janeway was born in 2335.
According to the book "Star Trek Chronology", written byMichael Okuda and Denise Okuda, both Riker and Chakotay was born in 2335.

As for Tom's accident, according to the book "Pathways", written by Jeri Taylor, three cadets were killed in the accident. On the countrary to Nic Locarno's accident, where the cadets were trying to do a "Kolvoord Starbust", Paris's group of cadets were targeting-shooting at asteroids, Paris made a too-advanced dive which the other cadets couldn't habdle which resulted in two cadets who were trying to follow Tom's moves crashed into the asteroid and the third was caught up in the explosion.

As for the Paris-Locarno mystery, my personal theory is that Nick Locarno was a result of old Owen Paris having an afair with a lady other than his wife. Owen kept quiet about it but supported Locarno so he could go into the academy. There, Locarno messed it up and was kicked out but Owen Paris managed to cover the tracks so that no connection between him and Nick Locarno could be traced. However, Tom found out about it, therefore his dislike and loathe to his father. ;)

As for Nick Locarno himself, according to the novella "Revenant", he was assimilated by the Borg in 2380 (see Memory Beta for further information)
 
According to the book "Mosaic", written by Jeri Taylor, Janeway met Riker at Starfleet Academy. Tyey were obviously at the same age. In that case, Janeway was born in 2335.
According to the book "Star Trek Chronology", written byMichael Okuda and Denise Okuda, both Riker and Chakotay was born in 2335.

True. Given Riker's canonical age is well known, then *if* they were really Freshmen and Sophomore together it would seem to imply that Janeway is, roughly, the same age as Mulgrew.

(Intriguingly, Jonathan Frakes is three years older than Kate Mulgrew.)

I say "if" because, although there is a lot of good material in "Mosaic", some of that stuff flatly contradicts the logic of the TV show. Riker and Kathryn being contemporaries is unfortunately one of them. Riker doesn't recognise her as 'Kate from the Academy' when he meets her in "Death Wish", he merely knows her by repute as the captain of Voyager, the ship that went missing in the badlands. For her part, Janeway admits something of a hero worship (or a crush?) on Will, but doesn't indicate she's actually met him before either.

Interesting article on the whole mess:

http://www.st-v-sw.net/archive/TAmosaic-janeway.html

I'd love to have considered "Mosaic" as a starting point, but I must admit some frustration that Janeway is the only captain for whom we never got a canonical year of birth (although ironically, she was supplied with a canonical date of birth, May 20).
 
One correction, Stewart was only 47 when he took the Picard role whereas Picard was supposed to be in his early 60s.
 
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