Arrow - Season 3

[Jax]

So over 60 years since he was last challenged, I presume that means he is in possesion of the Lazarus Pit and that will be used to heal Arrow?

You told her you love her so can the writers just put Oliver and Felicity together now and stop wasting time. Also the writers need to make Arrow a smarter fighter as that fight with Ra's was good but if your opponent is clearly capable of countering everything you do maybe forcing him to attack you first might be the better option and the only time Ollie got the upper hand was when he countered back instead of rushing in.

One day I hope we get to see Flash/Arrow take on the League of Assassins to wipe their smug looks of their faces.

 

[Icemizer]

Ah Ra's the cheater. Of course you dont lose you make them climb a mountain before they fight and then full of sweat remove their shirt in arctic temps. Oh you are clever you cheater.

 

[JanewayRulz!]

I don't understand why Oliver didn't tell Thea about Merlyn, since if Oliver died out there would be no-one to counter his effects on her.

 

[Gryffindorian]

Ah Ra's the cheater. Of course you dont lose you make them climb a mountain before they fight and then full of sweat remove their shirt in arctic temps. Oh you are clever you cheater.

I noticed that as well.

 

[Avon]

is anyone else thinking ray palmer/atom would make a much more interesting main character?

 

[Guy Gardener]

The only Qualification needed: Felicity likes kissing you.

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

No, but I can see him as part of his own series. Routh is clearly leading man material, although they're not writing him as such. Hopefully the actor will be able to spin his experiences here into further work and lead in his own show.

Good, good episode. I watch with my wife (who watches for the abs), and she's not a fan of the superpower stuff on THIS show, prefering it stick to The Flash (which we also watch and enjoy), and I tend to agree. Granted, when Ra's shows up on various Batman iterations the Lazarus pits are usually involved in some way, and in general Batman's solo stuff steers clear from too much superpowers, so maybe they're banking on it being acceptable here too. At this point on the show I'm trusting enough that the producers will not jump that particular shark and give us shrinking supermen or magical ooze that will strain this particular corner of the DCTV universe too much.

Mark

 

[Morpheus 02]

No, but I can see him as part of his own series. Routh is clearly leading man material, although they're not writing him as such. Hopefully the actor will be able to spin his experiences here into further work and lead in his own show.

Good, good episode. I watch with my wife (who watches for the abs), and she's not a fan of the superpower stuff on THIS show, prefering it stick to The Flash (which we also watch and enjoy), and I tend to agree. Granted, when Ra's shows up on various Batman iterations the Lazarus pits are usually involved in some way, and in general Batman's solo stuff steers clear from too much superpowers, so maybe they're banking on it being acceptable here too. At this point on the show I'm trusting enough that the producers will not jump that particular shark and give us shrinking supermen or magical ooze that will strain this particular corner of the DCTV universe too much.

Mark

I assume she was very disappointed in Ra's, then,

And Ra's is the master of deception -- which such a body, one would not expect to be beaten so easily!

 

[Guy Gardener]

Brother eye was already mentioned in the Origin of Felicity Smoke..

Brother Eye in the 70s was OMAC's orbital powersource/control program in the comics. Recently (10 years is not recent.) it went bad, and this happened...



That is what it looks like when a Beetle dies.



They wanted Ted Kord.

They got Ray Palmer.

Instead of telling Ray's story (Does the Atom have an iconic story other than identity Crisis which is mostly more about his wife than him?) they're still telling Teds.

AI + Battle armour = city wide occupation + Ray dead.

Who can see Ray Palmer's dead bullet riddled corpse still stapled into an OMAC, sorry ATOM armour, as a mad machine intellect drives him like a zombie?

Was OMAC a bad idea that got lost in the cracks, or was it Oliver's answer to Mirakuru?

Q?

Is Ray planning a one man war on crime, or is he building an army?

 

[JD]

No, but I can see him as part of his own series. Routh is clearly leading man material, although they're not writing him as such. Hopefully the actor will be able to spin his experiences here into further work and lead in his own show.

I read somewhere recently that the Arrow/Flash people are working on a third series, so there is some speculation that we might be getting a Atom series.

Good, good episode. I watch with my wife (who watches for the abs), and she's not a fan of the superpower stuff on THIS show, prefering it stick to The Flash (which we also watch and enjoy), and I tend to agree. Granted, when Ra's shows up on various Batman iterations the Lazarus pits are usually involved in some way, and in general Batman's solo stuff steers clear from too much superpowers, so maybe they're banking on it being acceptable here too. At this point on the show I'm trusting enough that the producers will not jump that particular shark and give us shrinking supermen or magical ooze that will strain this particular corner of the DCTV universe too much.

Mark

I'm the opposite, since the show started I've been hoping that they would incorporate superpowers into the show. I think not having superpowers on the show is limiting on what they can do. Now that we've gotten Barry using his powers on the show, that does open things up a bit in that regard. I don't know if I would necissarily want Ollie taking of for Oa with Green Lantern, but I think stuff like the Larzaruz Pits isn't pushing things to far. I wouldn't be against a Supergirl crossover once that show starts.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Isn't the third series Supergirl?

 

[theenglish]

Looks like Ollie will need a little dip in a certain pit. Good episode all around.

For a couple seconds when the fight started I wondered if they were going to kill Oliver and use the Lazarus Pit to revive him, but then I blew it off and figured they wouldn't actually go that direction. It looks like I might be wrong.
I also kind of wondered if they were going to bring the Pit (or is it Pits? Are there more than one?), when Ra's made the comment about not being challenged for 67 years, he definitely doesn't look that old.
I loved the episode. I honestly never even though of Thea being Sara's killer, that was a big shocker. So I wonder if that was Malcolm's plan from the moment he started training Thea, or if he just took advantage of the situation after he started training her?
So I wonder if they are just going to have the small tech making up the A.T.O.M. suit be their take on "shrinking", or if they are still going to have Ray shrink himself once it's done? I could see him shrinking for the first time being a perfect cliffhanger. In the end of one episode he seems to disappear and the we start the next episode we start the next with the same shot, and suddenly we zoom way in to a shrunken Ray in the suit.I've read several comments about the producers reconsidering their stance on superpowers on Arrow after the crossover with The Flash, so it does seem more likely now.
I did love Felicity comment about this always happening to her when Ray asked for her help.
According this interview IGN did with Marc Gugenheim before tonight's episode, the A.T.O.M. suit isn't done yet, so apparently it'll still be a little while before we see it in it's finished form.

They could go in the direction of the traditional Silver Age Atom and that would be cool, but remember that Palmer is really just a stand in for Ted Kord so more likely the Atom will just be Blue Beetle with a different name.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Ray does have a time travelling villain named Chronos who might turn out to be Wells?

His nemesis really.

No. His exwife is his nemesis.

Chronos spends 40 years trapping Ray in giant hourglasses, but all Jean Loring had to do to out shine that was go on a murder spree though the rest of the JLA's friends and family.

 

[Taylirious]

SuperIronMan will save Ollie! I agree Brandon needs his own show.

 

[Corran Horn]

That was a very un-Oliver fight he gave Ra's. Lots of impulsiveness and over-committing.

Ra's said he'd lasted longer than most but there were plenty of opportunities to end it earlier.

Seems odd after they'd just had him training Barry to do the opposite of a lot of the things he did here.

 

[Jax]

One theory I heard was Ra's blood was on the sword (Does the powr of the pit work that way?) and that he seem to miss Oliver's heart + that whole prayer about avoiding the grave indicates Ra has no intention of killing Arrow...

If true then why fight him in the first place?

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

That was a very un-Oliver fight he gave Ra's. Lots of impulsiveness and over-committing.

Ra's said he'd lasted longer than most but there were plenty of opportunities to end it earlier.

Seems odd after they'd just had him training Barry to do the opposite of a lot of the things he did here.

Well, he had just exhausted himself climbing a freezing moiuntain and the swords were hardly his weapons of choice.
If they had given him a bow and let him fight fresh the whole thing might have ended differently.

Then, maybe he really didn't intend to win, as he knew he couldn't under these conditions and he has a different plan altogether.

Didn't Olly pretty much direct the fight to the ledge himself?
I just checked again.
When Ras had him at the throat he walked there unnecessarily and basically positioned himself to be thrown down and then provoked him to the final blow.

i say it was his plan to fall down, not sure about the sword in his gut.

 

[Corran Horn]

To paraphrase Mike Tyson, everybody's got a plan until they get a sword in the gut.

 

[JD]

Isn't the third series Supergirl?

I guess it could be, but that is just Kreisberg and it's on CBS, so I'm not sure if it would count.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

It's one of the guys involved in Arrow and it's intended to be the same universe (I think CW turned it down). I can see it counting. Although, who knows. We're speculating about what a rumor means so we should tread carefully.