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Gotham - Season 1

The law dictates that Children work less.

It might take them several weeks to get all the necessary shots for a an episode where the kids play a larger part.

Which means that they might be unavailable for three episodes, if it takes them four weeks to film one episode all about them.

Kids are a pain.

Modern Family and half a dozen other shows would disagree with you.
 
Only just realised that the guy who plays Zsasz also played Kyle Nimbus/The Mist on The Flash a few weeks ago.
 
The law dictates that Children work less.

It might take them several weeks to get all the necessary shots for a an episode where the kids play a larger part.

Which means that they might be unavailable for three episodes, if it takes them four weeks to film one episode all about them.

Kids are a pain.

Modern Family and half a dozen other shows would disagree with you.

Here is the law for New York State which is where Gotham is being filmed..

(apologies that it's a PDF)

http://www.labor.ny.gov/formsdocs/wp/LS559.pdf

(Below more information on he subject from the states website.)

http://www.labor.ny.gov/workerprotection/laborstandards/secure/ChildPerformerFAQ.shtm

6 to 17 years of age minor in New York = 5 hours a day, actual work, on a school day.

Modern Family has to be clever.

I didn't say it was impossible, just a pain.
 
Ben McKenzie's Halloween costume

http://www.blastr.com/2014-11-4/cosplay-we-love-gothams-ben-mckenzies-aged-commissioner-gordon


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I'd say Sean Pertwee and McKenzie had the best Halloween celebrity costumes
 
The law dictates that Children work less.

It might take them several weeks to get all the necessary shots for a an episode where the kids play a larger part.

Which means that they might be unavailable for three episodes, if it takes them four weeks to film one episode all about them.

Kids are a pain.
Do you know for a fact this is how shows like Gotham film? I've never heard of a show filming one episode over that much time, even with kids involved.
I had just assumed they were more careful with their time when working with the kids.
 
The law dictates that Children work less.

It might take them several weeks to get all the necessary shots for a an episode where the kids play a larger part.

Which means that they might be unavailable for three episodes, if it takes them four weeks to film one episode all about them.

Kids are a pain.
Do you know for a fact this is how shows like Gotham film? I've never heard of a show filming one episode over that much time, even with kids involved.
I had just assumed they were more careful with their time when working with the kids.

Nope, he was spitballing with that post. Gotham doesn't really center on the kids in the cast enough to worry about the legal restrictions.
 
It's taken a while, but this and the previous episode have been the first ones I genuinely enjoyed in full and felt were wholly successful stories in their own right. Previous episodes have had characters and events and imagery I've liked within a mess of a story, but now it's finally starting to come together a bit. Hopefully it keeps this up and doesn't revert back to the sloppiness of the first several episodes.
 
If it was possible to understand my posts, which it clearly isn't... I said "where the kids play a larger part" which I thought would clearly mean to say a larger part than the parts we have seen them play.

The kids barely get 5 minutes on camera each.

What if there was a script that called for one of the kids to be in almost every scene?

If it takes a week to shoot 5 minutes, then logically it should take 8 weeks to film 40 minutes, or 4 weeks to shoot 20 minutes.

Is it physically possible for Bruce to be in every scene if shooting lasts a week and he can only work less than a third as long as an adult?

I'm sorry if it seems like science fiction if they might think it's possible to timeshift episode shooting like they do in Doctor who, but this is what they do in Doctor Who now and then. The female and male leads split up and two film crews film two episodes in one week, each focussing on one of the leads.

We haven't seen Ivy in a while. What if she's filming an episode called "All About Ivy" with a second film crew while business continues on as usual with the A-Team?

Isn't that Hypothetically not impossible?
 
6 to 17 years of age minor in New York = 5 hours a day, actual work, on a school day.

5 hours a day isn't too onerous on the production. For actors, most of filming a show is just sitting around waiting anyway (and the time the kid spends with their on-set teacher doesn't count as "work"). Using kids just requires the production to be efficiently organised.
 
It's 5 hours a day working, but 8 hours on set per day period.

So waiting around doing nothing and lunch, and tea breaks, and smoke breaks, do eat away against those 8 hours quite quickly if the producers are not smart with their time.

Remember, this all started about a hypothetical where one of the children was doing a full episode or almost a full episode and not the tiny pin prick that they have been asked for as yet.

Smart can only get you so far.
 
Twins and triplets are used a lot until they start looking different.

Again, I said they were a pain to work with, not impossible.

What actually happens is that story matter is written around the child actors and because of the limited availability of children. The writers know that they cannot over use the children so they don't, so there is no problem.

I wonder if the Modern Family cast kept to American Standards when they visited Australia recently?
 
If it takes a week to shoot 5 minutes, then logically it should take 8 weeks to film 40 minutes, or 4 weeks to shoot 20 minutes...
I spent some quality time with my calculator and then ran it through Excel, took it out for dinner and then had a wild night in the sack with it.

Turns out, according to your figures, it would take over three years to film a season. I think you are wrong.
 
Does it look like they are using each of the kids more than 5 minutes an episode?

No it doesn't.

Because they are not.

The Children are barely on camera.

They can't make an all Catgirl episode but they want to.

They ache to make a Catgirl episode.

So how are they going to make an all Catgirl episode if they can't generate more than 5 usable minutes per week of Catgirl?

Hmmm?
 
Does it look like they are using each of the kids more than 5 minutes an episode?

No it doesn't.

Because they are not.

The Children are barely on camera.

They can't make an all Catgirl episode but they want to.

They ache to make a Catgirl episode.

So how are they going to make an all Catgirl episode if they can't generate more than 5 usable minutes per week of Catgirl?

Hmmm?

Well, I assume - for various reasons - that Catgirl is a popular character even though she has been sporadically seen on the show. I'm sure if they wanted, they can do a standalone story about Catgirl if they wanted.

It's just a matter of how they can pull it off without the story being 'filler' while there is an overall arc building up; keeping the momentum going while they break off into said standalone story.
 
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