Star Wars: Episode VII: The Nerd Rage Awakens
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Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII
Never trust a beeping trash can with lights. They'll shank ya when you're not looking.
Never trust a beeping trash can with lights. They'll shank ya when you're not looking.
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII
Maybe he still has the "Anakin Wuz Here" graffiti that the boy Padawan scribbled with crayon inside one of his tool panels.
Maybe he still has the "Anakin Wuz Here" graffiti that the boy Padawan scribbled with crayon inside one of his tool panels.
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII
Speaking of R2 did anyone ever come up with a sufficient and logical enough explination as to why Vader doesn't seem to remember his old pal when he was Anakin? That's always bugged me.
Both would have a clear memory of working together since R2's memory banks were never scrubbed like 3PO's and since ya know Vader should remember the robot.
Speaking of R2 did anyone ever come up with a sufficient and logical enough explination as to why Vader doesn't seem to remember his old pal when he was Anakin? That's always bugged me.
Both would have a clear memory of working together since R2's memory banks were never scrubbed like 3PO's and since ya know Vader should remember the robot.
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII
Actually, now that the EU is gone, I'm really curious if it was ever revealed to Luke that R2 was owned by Luke and Leia's parents. In the EU, the Dark Nest trilogy (besides being a kind of good/kind of bad story about mind controlling bugs) had Luke and Leia learn about their mother, and that R2 was owned by her (Luke saw a hologram of her and Anakin R2 had, which lead to Leia and Luke finding out about their mother). Its something that's up in the air now, since there was no one alive by the end of the OT to tell them about their mother, and obviously no record of their births.
Unless Obi Wan's ghost came back to give them info, R2's one of the only things that knows about their mother and is still around (I'm pretty sure he was never memory wiped like C-3P0). I mean, some people that knew Padme might still be alive, and I'm sure she's remembered on Naboo, but almost no one knew she was the mother of Luke/Leia. Only Obi Wan, Yoda, Bail Organa (and possibly his wife), and R2 (plus C-3P0, but he got a mind wipe) definitely knew about Luke/Leia's parents from what I can tell. Even Luke's aunt/uncle might not have known who Luke's mother was (they might have known it was the woman they met when Anakin was on Tatooine with her in AOTC, though). I doubt this will be brought up in a movie, but its something I'd be interested in seeing a book talk about.
Actually, now that the EU is gone, I'm really curious if it was ever revealed to Luke that R2 was owned by Luke and Leia's parents. In the EU, the Dark Nest trilogy (besides being a kind of good/kind of bad story about mind controlling bugs) had Luke and Leia learn about their mother, and that R2 was owned by her (Luke saw a hologram of her and Anakin R2 had, which lead to Leia and Luke finding out about their mother). Its something that's up in the air now, since there was no one alive by the end of the OT to tell them about their mother, and obviously no record of their births.
Unless Obi Wan's ghost came back to give them info, R2's one of the only things that knows about their mother and is still around (I'm pretty sure he was never memory wiped like C-3P0). I mean, some people that knew Padme might still be alive, and I'm sure she's remembered on Naboo, but almost no one knew she was the mother of Luke/Leia. Only Obi Wan, Yoda, Bail Organa (and possibly his wife), and R2 (plus C-3P0, but he got a mind wipe) definitely knew about Luke/Leia's parents from what I can tell. Even Luke's aunt/uncle might not have known who Luke's mother was (they might have known it was the woman they met when Anakin was on Tatooine with her in AOTC, though). I doubt this will be brought up in a movie, but its something I'd be interested in seeing a book talk about.
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII
The old Holonet News on the official site had a press release from Industrial Automation saying that they recommended removing the 'jets' from their astrodroids because of malfunction (or some such) shortly after the events of Episode III.
I'm just hoping that R2's flying jets haven't been reinstalled or repaired in the time between episodes VI and VII
The old Holonet News on the official site had a press release from Industrial Automation saying that they recommended removing the 'jets' from their astrodroids because of malfunction (or some such) shortly after the events of Episode III.
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII
Well, if its on the official site, that's good. I'd heard how they explained away the lack of rockets in the old EU stuff, but I didn't know if they'd decide to give R2 the rockets again for Episode VII. Hopefully this means they definitely won't.
I'm just hoping that R2's flying jets haven't been reinstalled or repaired in the time between episodes VI and VII
The old Holonet News on the official site had a press release from Industrial Automation saying that they recommended removing the 'jets' from their astrodroids because of malfunction (or some such) shortly after the events of Episode III.
Well, if its on the official site, that's good. I'd heard how they explained away the lack of rockets in the old EU stuff, but I didn't know if they'd decide to give R2 the rockets again for Episode VII. Hopefully this means they definitely won't.
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII
Artoo is the man. He is the heart of Star Wars and Lucas could have introduced a 1,000 Jar-Jar type characters and I still would have forgiven him thanks to that shortsighted scrap pile with rusty innards and delusions of grandeur.
Artoo is the man. He is the heart of Star Wars and Lucas could have introduced a 1,000 Jar-Jar type characters and I still would have forgiven him thanks to that shortsighted scrap pile with rusty innards and delusions of grandeur.
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII
Oh, I like R2, he's great. But, I think he's better when he's not given over the top, super CG action scenes. He's there for a bit of comedy, and just generally to be cool. He doesn't need to be flying around to be cool.
Oh, I like R2, he's great. But, I think he's better when he's not given over the top, super CG action scenes. He's there for a bit of comedy, and just generally to be cool. He doesn't need to be flying around to be cool.
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII
Kinda amazing to see how a robot design from the late 70s still holds up and works just as well today. And thankfully doesn't look nearly as dated as other designs from back then, like the Cylons from BSG, Twiki from Buck Rogers, the drones from Silent Running...
And the ships are still just as cool as well.
Kinda amazing to see how a robot design from the late 70s still holds up and works just as well today. And thankfully doesn't look nearly as dated as other designs from back then, like the Cylons from BSG, Twiki from Buck Rogers, the drones from Silent Running...
And the ships are still just as cool as well.
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII
Even the Prequel designs do not match what was created for the original trilogy.
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII
Even the boxy, primitive-looking Power ("Gonk") Droids first seen in the original film hold up after almost 40 years. They're just inventive and original enough and were given enough of a personality and flavor that a big walking battery or generator on two feet can still be enjoyed and even beloved by fans. Something about the raw, industrial, cobbled-together look and feel of the OT droids just makes them some of the greatest robots and androids to ever appear in science fiction and fantasy.
Even the boxy, primitive-looking Power ("Gonk") Droids first seen in the original film hold up after almost 40 years. They're just inventive and original enough and were given enough of a personality and flavor that a big walking battery or generator on two feet can still be enjoyed and even beloved by fans. Something about the raw, industrial, cobbled-together look and feel of the OT droids just makes them some of the greatest robots and androids to ever appear in science fiction and fantasy.
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII
Actually, if you pay close attention to the events of the Original Trilogy Vader never comes into direct contact with R2-D2 in any of the films, and the one time he's within eyeshot of the droid he's piloting his TIE Fighter, fires at and almost destroys Artoo during the final attack run on the first Death Star's exhaust port. He never actually sees Artoo up close, and if he did get close enough to Luke's X-Wing to notice the appearance and colors of the astromech in the fighter's socket he might not have put two and two together. Besides, he was focused on the human pilot and how strong with the Force he was.
It's very possible that Vader never saw R2-D2 until after his last-minute redemption, return to being Anakin Skywalker and then death. As a Force ghost on Endor he may have caught sight of Artoo celebrating with the Rebels and Ewoks and remembered his old friend.
Actually, if you pay close attention to the events of the Original Trilogy Vader never comes into direct contact with R2-D2 in any of the films, and the one time he's within eyeshot of the droid he's piloting his TIE Fighter, fires at and almost destroys Artoo during the final attack run on the first Death Star's exhaust port. He never actually sees Artoo up close, and if he did get close enough to Luke's X-Wing to notice the appearance and colors of the astromech in the fighter's socket he might not have put two and two together. Besides, he was focused on the human pilot and how strong with the Force he was.
It's very possible that Vader never saw R2-D2 until after his last-minute redemption, return to being Anakin Skywalker and then death. As a Force ghost on Endor he may have caught sight of Artoo celebrating with the Rebels and Ewoks and remembered his old friend.
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII
Good point thanks. As R2 and 3PO race to the Falcon on Hoth doesn't Vader bump into one or either of them?
Forget R2 for a moment, why doesn't Vader recognize 3PO? He built the droid as a child?
Good point thanks. As R2 and 3PO race to the Falcon on Hoth doesn't Vader bump into one or either of them?
Forget R2 for a moment, why doesn't Vader recognize 3PO? He built the droid as a child?
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII
In the (now old) EU Vader actually recognizes Threepio's shattered parts on Cloud City during the events of Empire and is the one who decides to save them and give them back to Chewbacca instead of following an Imperial officer's advice and having the Ugnaughts smelt them down in the recycling facility. There's a scene where Vader holds Threepio's disconnected head and looks at it, recognizing that it's the very same protocol droid he built as a child on Tatooine. He gets a little wistful as a fragment of the old Anakin Skywalker emerges from Vader's darkened soul and he decides he'll spare C-3PO the final indignity of being destroyed.
In the (now old) EU Vader actually recognizes Threepio's shattered parts on Cloud City during the events of Empire and is the one who decides to save them and give them back to Chewbacca instead of following an Imperial officer's advice and having the Ugnaughts smelt them down in the recycling facility. There's a scene where Vader holds Threepio's disconnected head and looks at it, recognizing that it's the very same protocol droid he built as a child on Tatooine. He gets a little wistful as a fragment of the old Anakin Skywalker emerges from Vader's darkened soul and he decides he'll spare C-3PO the final indignity of being destroyed.
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII
And in the actual films themselves we can always pretend that Vader recognizes C-3PO on Cloud City and just doesn't say anything (or he does so offscreen when we're not watching). Threepio is a relic of Anakin Skywalker's childhood and years as a Jedi, and Darth Vader purged or buried most of those memories after turning to the Dark Side.
Sure, he probably recognized Threepio but at that point he saw him as he saw his own horribly-scarred and damaged human face in a reflection - a memory of a bygone era that he'd left in the past when he made his choice to become a Sith apprentice.
And in the actual films themselves we can always pretend that Vader recognizes C-3PO on Cloud City and just doesn't say anything (or he does so offscreen when we're not watching). Threepio is a relic of Anakin Skywalker's childhood and years as a Jedi, and Darth Vader purged or buried most of those memories after turning to the Dark Side.
Sure, he probably recognized Threepio but at that point he saw him as he saw his own horribly-scarred and damaged human face in a reflection - a memory of a bygone era that he'd left in the past when he made his choice to become a Sith apprentice.
