No resurrection required, Shatner and Nimoy will be future versions of PineKirk and QuintoSpock. 
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Predict how TOS Kirk will be Resurrected
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No resurrection required, Shatner and Nimoy will be future versions of PineKirk and NimoySpock.
QuintoSpock?
Oops. That's Correct. Thanks, BillJ.
No resurrection required, Shatner and Nimoy will be future versions of PineKirk and NimoySpock.
QuintoSpock?
]]Hopfully not. I am not really a big fan of a time jump by years.its never done good. too cliche for my taste.
After seven-hundred hours, many things are going to come across as cliche. If it's done, it'll all come down to the execution of the idea.
At Old Spock's funeral, Young Spock finds the recorded message from Old Kirk and plays it.
Shatner gets a speech, fans get wanked, everybody's happy.
Shatner gets a speech, fans get wanked, everybody's happy.
A glimpse of these characters in their future does seem to suck the drama out of any stories set between now and then by revealing they survive, but don't we kinda know that already anyway? Unless we'd be seeing one of many possible different futures...
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At Old Spock's funeral, Young Spock finds the recorded message from Old Kirk and plays it.
Shatner gets a speech, fans get wanked, everybody's happy.
Twenty years ago? Maybe. But I'm not sure how I'd feel seeing Spock Prime's funeral with Nimoy himself being so close to "moving on".
We see a bed-ridden Spock about to expire from natural causes and as he passes into the light, we see the Shat waiting to greet him and these two brothers go off to explore The Great Mystery ...
If Shatner is to be in ST3, then the following two conditions will be inevitable:
1. He will play James T. Kirk, not some random cameo character. I doubt he'd ever agree to anything else, unless it was accompanied by 2/3 of the production budget as salary.
2. He will play prime Kirk, not old nuKirk. While the Deadly Years intro sounds plausible, it will be too confusing to people who already associate Nimoy as prime Spock in the Abramsverse.
1. He will play James T. Kirk, not some random cameo character. I doubt he'd ever agree to anything else, unless it was accompanied by 2/3 of the production budget as salary.
2. He will play prime Kirk, not old nuKirk. While the Deadly Years intro sounds plausible, it will be too confusing to people who already associate Nimoy as prime Spock in the Abramsverse.
Which may be why they want to do it. This cast was contracted for three films. Who knows what will happen after this. This could end up being TRUE closing of an era. The first half of the Star Trek franchise, with an entirely new beginning starting after this.
Most people aren't that dumb and the dialogue can be adjusted to clearly note which versions of Kirk and Spock, Shatner and Nimoy are playing.
I have it on good authority, and I can assert my source is solid, that Kirk ate Nexus strawberries on Christmas, and that put his bloodstream in temporal flux, so for the next few hours he could travel his own timeline at Will. After he died and Picard left, he travelled back to his space jump and picked the champagne bottle in space and drank it. Nexus Strawberries mixed with alcohol – a potent cortexiphan disaster mush forbidden across all time and space – made him jump universes, and lo and behold, he found another version of himself doing boring spacejumps with no spinning, swirling and acrobatics, with a trio of idiots who did everything they could to get themselves killed. He was so disturbed that anyone would willingly jump over a place infested with Romulans that he accidentally jumped back to right before his own birth. He became a brainless infant with superpowers, Winona's adrenaline mixed with the strawberries and the alcohol, and she began jumping universes and became Future Guy.
Another alternative, is a story where the destruction USS Kelvin is averted in a couple of different ways. With Shatner's involvement required to show Kirk's future in the early 24th Century and the ultimate result of such meddling in history. Whether the point is, that version can be restored or like pulling a loose thread, time travel can only ever do damage and make the situation increasingly worse. George Kirk is suddenly there again to inspire his son to join Starfleet, as we assume that formed part of who Prime Kirk was. A studious and serious bookworm, as described in the original show and who became a more fun and rebellious person once he'd achieved his goal of commanding a starship. While Nu Kirk is living his life the other way around, straightening up and flying right thanks to Pike acting as a mentor, after drifting for a few years. But interference turns out to be more random than that and somehow brings unintended consequences.
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No more gimmicks, no more time travel. Just give me a fun, weird story about a strange new world. That focuses solely on the characters as portrayed by the current actors.
It's impossible for them to stand on their own if they keep placing them under the shadow of TOS.
With the release set for the 50th Anniversary, when they'll obviously be constant reminders of the past come September, isn't it ultimately going to be impossible to escape such a shadow?
Probably the biggest sign that this is separate to what's gone before and truly stands alone, would be a move to May 2017. But so much done already has often heavily relied on a familiarity with TOS and their films.
Probably the biggest sign that this is separate to what's gone before and truly stands alone, would be a move to May 2017. But so much done already has often heavily relied on a familiarity with TOS and their films.
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That's not the point. If "we" got to see Prime Spock (twice), "we" will not be happy if it's anything other than Prime Kirk.
But to address your point - having Nimoy play an older nuSpock would be confusing despite any kind of magical writing, because Prime Spock has been cemented as a (recurring) character in the nuUniverse.
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