Season four?

[johnnybear]

I wonder if anyone knows of any stories were scheduled to be part of season four if there had of been one?
More encounters with The Klingons and The Romulans no doubt plus other lost Starships? The mind boggles!
JB

 

[Harvey]

I'm not aware of any stories that were bought for a fourth season. I don't believe NBC advanced the series any money to start purchasing stories for a potential fourth season, which they had done in the past. The writing was on the wall in terms of cancellation.

 

[drt]

I suppose one could look to the animated series to get an idea of some of the stories they might have done, for the most part it was the usual suspects writing those scripts.

 

[SchwEnt]

Yes it's true, some unused TOS scripts/ideas were made into TAS eps. So there is some of what a Season Four might have been.

 

[Maurice]

Cartoon Uhura in command of the ship on Saturday morning? No problem at all. Live-action Uhura in command in prime time? No chance in hell. Promote DeSalle ASAP!!!!

The network had no problem with a woman second in command. They just kiboshed Majel as Number One because they thought that she, like the bulk of the pilot cast, wasn't strong enough to help carry the show. I doubt anyone would have blinked an eye if Uhura took the Conn now and then.

 

[johnnybear]

I know that a few Lost in Space scripts were being prepared for their season four before they were cancelled!
JB

 

[F. King Daniel]

The novel The Joy Machine is an adaptation of an unused TOS script.

 

[Marsden]

Orion Press has a lot of info. William Shatner wrote one but they could never have made it anyway because of the budget.

http://www.orionpressfanzines.com/articles/unseen.htm

http://www.orionpressfanzines.com/articles/web_of_death.htm

Not really for a fourth season, but for more possible stories.

 

[Commishsleer]

Cartoon Uhura in command of the ship on Saturday morning? No problem at all. Live-action Uhura in command in prime time? No chance in hell. Promote DeSalle ASAP!!!!

The network had no problem with a woman second in command. They just kiboshed Majel as Number One because they thought that she, like the bulk of the pilot cast, wasn't strong enough to help carry the show. I doubt anyone would have blinked an eye if Uhura took the Conn now and then.

So if the suits weren't the reason why didn't Uhura ever have the conn?
Nobody thought of it?

 

[Warped9]

After Roddenberry kept repeating the fabricated story that NBC didn't like the idea of a woman in position of authority he basically painted themselves into a corner.

I keep coming back to a question that will probably never be answered: at any time during the series was there ever a story idea depicting a woman of command rank and it was deliberately shot down? Or was it simply that during the series run no one else thought of proposing the idea even if for a guest shot?

I say this simply because there were a number of Starfleet guest roles throughout the series where a woman could have been cast just as easily as a man. Any number of Starfleet Commodores, Captains and Admirals could have been played by a woman. Even if it had happened only once it would have been huge in terms of worldbuilding and the message of equality TOS purported to be trying to convey would have strengthened.

I'm glad Star Trek Continues (with the character of Commodore Gray) finally did what TOS could have done.

 

[johnnybear]

In Turnabout Intruder, Janice Lester states that women are not allowed to serve as Captains in starfleet! Right or wrong it's still there in the show!
JB

 

[Warped9]

In Turnabout Intruder, Janice Lester states that women are not allowed to serve as Captains in starfleet! Right or wrong it's still there in the show!
JB

This is always getting rehashed. But the episode clearly lays out that Lester is bitter as hell and an unstable nutjob--definitely not starship command material. And she proves it repeatedly throughout the episode. So anything she says is highly suspect.

I still take it as meaning that Kirk's own career of starship command held no room for a woman in terms of a long term relationship (and this is largely what Lester is bitter about) rather than Starfleet prohibiting woman from command.

 

[Marsden]

In Turnabout Intruder, Janice Lester states that women are not allowed to serve as Captains in starfleet! Right or wrong it's still there in the show!
JB

No more! Agggh!

The Janice Lester line was discussed here last year. It is open to interpretation. I like to believe that Janice Lester feels Kirk didn't have room in his life for his career and a relationship.

Neil

 

[johnnybear]

I take it this has been said before? LoL
JB

 

[Warped9]

I take it this has been said before? LoL
JB

The debate that refuses to die.

 

[johnnybear]

Is that anything like the hunger which refuses to die? Lol
JB

 

[CrazyMatt]

In Turnabout Intruder, Janice Lester states that women are not allowed to serve as Captains in starfleet! Right or wrong it's still there in the show!
JB

From what I've read about the man from those who worked with/for him, GR was quite the chauvinist.... or perhaps misogynist... back in the 60's. His excuse for NBC objecting to Majel Barrett was BS, and meant in part as an excuse to mollify his GF. And NBC knew GR was "keeping her."

How do we reconcile his supposed desire to put a "strong woman" high in the command structure with the way he put female crew members in mini-skirts?

 

[johnnybear]

GR was having affairs while he was married and when he was with Majel too! He just couldn't keep his hands off of them!
Jb