You're most unpopular Trek opinions

[PKTrekGirl]

^ Yeah...I guess that WOULD be another thread. Because I think John Crichton is cool.

Interesting...because the moment I read 'Farscape' I thought it would be a reference to Rygel - NOT John Crichton.

And I see Rygel as 'Scape's version of the EMH. Only Rygel is better because he was written to not be taken seriously, whereas the EMH was written to be taken QUITE seriously - at least after the first couple of seasons.

I mean, you never saw the EMH fart helium.

 

[Kegek]

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Would you believe Rygel is my favourite character? Unsurprising, no? Well, I'd rate Harvey over him, but I'm not sure if he counts...

Rygel's not half as great as the EMH, but he was fun. The EMH definitely has a comic quality, though - "Tinker, Tenor, Doctor, Spy" comes to mind.

 

[The Laughing Vulcan]

Re: Your most unpopular Trek opinions

If I never hear the words "Pecan Pie" again it will be too soon.

Voyager and ENT killed those words, overuse deleted their meanings. As a food that I have never eaten, just the sound of those words makes me nauseous.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Re: Your most unpopular Trek opinions

Pecan Pies are actually good. Even if you don't want to try one, why does it matter that someone else likes them?

 

[Jaro Stun]

TOS is dated, unwatchable, visually and story-wise sux greatly.

That's mine

 

[UnknownSample]

I'm not reading all of this (eye problem) but post 1, kctanner? I agree with everything, except it's the last few seasons of Next Gen that I find intolerable... complacent, bland, and smug.

I just saw ST: Generations again. Some logic flaws didn't bother me this time, and overall, I was very impressed with it, from start to finish. It centers on the insides of the characters and us, desire, trauma, desperation... it's about, what if heaven were a place you could travel to physically? What if it didn't matter if you were "good" or "bad"? What if you physically had to get yourself there? ... being a good boy wasn't going to be enough. In fact, you have to slaughter millions to do it. "Time is the fire in which we burn"--- that's a great moment.

ST:G, at least for the moment, has pulled ahead of Khan for me. Right now it's my #1. I guess Khan's 2, and First Contact is 3. Nemesis might be 4 just because it has weirdness going for it (only saw it once), therefore it's automatically more interesting than #1, 3, 4, 5, and 6... which I just think aren't good movies. They're painful to watch.

There's an unpopular opinion for you. I think Generations is for grown-ups, and may be the first ST film where I feel I can definitely say that.

 

[Colonel Green]

Re: Your most unpopular Trek opinions

TNG is the best series.

Avery Brooks is a terrible actor.

Harry Mudd should have joined Starfleet.


Well, ONE of those is a lie.

 

[Caliburn24]

Re: Your most unpopular Trek opinions

The Enterprise episode Precious Cargo captures the fun light hearted feel of TOS better than any other episode of modern Trek.

 

[Lord Garth]

Re: Your most unpopular Trek opinions

I didn't know what to come up with earlier but now I have a few things:

1. I don't see anything inherently wrong with setting a Star Trek series in the 25th Century or later. Technology is based on innovation followed by demand. What if the 25th Century is a dry period? Then you can focus instead on the interplanetary instead of technological and the passage of time would have allowed for things to naturally change. You could change anything you want and then say it happeened during the huge time-gap offscreen.

2. I agree that 20th Century costumes should look as ridiculous to people in the 24th Century as vice versa.

3. Too much emphasis is placed on competition between different Star Trek productions. Noting comparison and contrast is one thing but I don't like when people turn it personal.

4. Gary Mithcell and Carol Marcus are natural parts of Kirk's backstory. It wouldn't feel forced if either were included into ST XI depending upon the timeframe.

 

[greenmystik]

Re: Your most unpopular Trek opinions

Avery Brooks is a terrible actor.

Here Here. Those damnable dramatic pauses...he was worse than The Shat.

By the way, Greatest. Captain. Ever.

There I said it...who's with me!!!

 

[trevanian]

Mysterion said:
1) Spock should have stayed dead after TWoK.

2) Saavik should have been the betrayer instead of Valeris in TUC.

3) DSN is the only spin-off series to truly capture the essence and spirit of TOS.

4) Patrick Stewart's acting is over-rated.

5) Avery Brook's acting is under-rated.

6) Most episodes of TNG, VOY and ENT are pretty-much interchangable from series to series despite the fact that VOY and ENT had potentially great premises that could have led to much more unique story-telling.

7) Starfleet is a military organization. A badly run military organization, but military nonetheless.

Jellico was right.

9) Riker is a putz who should have never gotten command of USS Titan after having previously turned down at least three other opportunities for command.

I don't know who you are, but I might have to look up your other posts. I gotta agree with ALL of your points (esp #8.) I don't suppose you also love the maquis, specifically Eddington? (that is the one I always get in trouble for.)

 

[euphorik]

1. VOY is totally worthless (is this an unpopular opinion) and is far more responsible for tarnishing the franchise than ENT ever was or could have been

2. seasons 1 & 2 of TNG are way better than seasons 5,6, or 7 of TNG

3. what turned a significant portion of the potential audience off of ENT was the jaw-droppingly bad, hysterical-laughter-inducing mall-metal theme music.

 

[Gepard]

--"Threshold" is a lot of fun. It isn't any good, but it is a lot of fun.

--The third season of Enterprise wasn't much of an improvement over the prior two. Yes, it had story arcs, but the characters were still annoying morons.

--"Genesis" is a good episode (despite the too-quick wrap-up).

--The bridge and other areas of the Galaxy-class starships were superbly designed, and exactly what I would want to live in if I had to spend years abord a spacecraft.

Agreed with the above posters about Braga being underrated, the Ellison version of "City" being crap and Roddenberry's "vision" being overrated. Enough already, people who disagree!

 

[Michael]

Want to add some:

I like the Next Generation episodes "Sub Rosa" and "Genesis".

I love "The Way To Eden"!

TMP is boring. But I love it nonetheless!

Dennis McCarthy did good scores, too.

You can have your personal canon. (I can accept that Spock was an only child and had a brother!)

None of the series or movies ever needed remastering.

You can love an episode just because it is cheesy.

I really don't consider Jolene Blalock and Jeri Ryan THAT sexy.

Jennifer Lien and Linda Park are sexy.

Oh, and I really like the ENT theme song!

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

- Harlan Ellison, the quality of his work notwithstanding, is a spiteful twit and is not in fact God; there are good reasons why his original version of City wouldn't have worked as Trek.

- Kathryn Janeway is TEH HOTNESS.

- TOS Remastered totally rocks.

- So would TNG, DS9 or VOY remastered, which we all know they will be.

- The Federation uses credits.

 

[jimbo1973]

lol yep the federation pays 100 BILLION DOLLARS ayear to starfleet captains..lol

I liked ENT..........ducks

 

[Mike Farley]

Deep Space Nine sucked outright for its entire first three seasons. Got okay in season 4 and didn't get good until seasons 5-7.

None of DS9's best characters were in the opening credits.

First Contact (the movie) wasn't very good at all. It ruined the Borg as villains.

ST:TMP is a great movie. You just have to watch it with an intermission!

 

[greenmystik]

The OG Constitution is ugly.

Voyager (the ship) is a waste of material.

The Feds have way to many classes of ships.

The Rommies don't have enough.

The Klingons are wusses since Khitomer.

But Worf is bad ass and should have kept the Chancellorship. (don't care if it's a word)

Troi is the OG hottie.

Blaylock sucked as a Vulcan.

ENT should never have existed.

 

[steveman]

1). The Cardassians are the best aliens in all of Trek. Even over the Vulcans. Even over the Klingons. Second place is distant.

2). Phlox was the best doctor. As an actual physican. And as a character.

3). Maybe this isn't all that unpopular, but Data's death in Nemesis is the single-most disappointing moment in all of Trek. Even over Kirk's death in Gen.

4). In-universe, no other captain was as influential as Sisko. However, because he was never the "company man" Picard (or Kirk) was, he will never be seen as such. A pity.

 

[greenmystik]

steveman said:
because he was never the "company man" Picard (or Kirk) was

I don't think anybody has ever accused Kirk of being a "company man." He's always referred to as the "maverick" or "cowboy" of the 23rd century.