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You're most unpopular Trek opinions

The Thaw was an excellent study into fear. It's my favorite Voyager episode. I even have a copy of it on my Blackberry.
 
Captain Jack Sparrow said:
The Thaw was an excellent study into fear. It's my favorite Voyager episode. I even have a copy of it on my Blackberry.

While it's not my favorite, I agree it's brilliant. I loved it.

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I don't think I had any unpopular opinions but I guess I do.

I liked The Thaw.
I thought Masks was a cool episode for two reasons:
1) I thought the the culture and the way the E-D was transformed were interesting,
2) Brent Spiner did a kick ass job.
I like Insurrection. I thought it was a fun, line hearted adventure. There were a lot of things I liked about it, Riker and Troi getting together, Data learning to have fun, and the scene with Geordi on the mountain.
 
I find TMP the best Star Trek movie and the only TOS movie that could be call a big budget motion picture.
I think Nick Meyers and Harve Bennett are overrated,
Enterprise was a good show, Tpol is second best Vulcan after Spock, 7 of 9 saved VOY. Hologram programs aren't sentinel, hated Mudd, DS9 is the worst ST series, didn't like Chekov.I think human genetic engineering a good thing, dont like torpedo's tubes(in TWOK)prefer energy bolt as in TMP. I find transport unbelievable tech and scould be dropped.
 
- Rick Berman and Brannon Braga have done some good work. They are not the Antichrists who personally ruined Trek completely.

- DS9 did not rip off B5.

- I liked Nemesis.

- The uniforms in TOS look like silly pajamas.

- The Maquis are pretentious twits at best, dangerous terrorists at worst, and generally something writers should have never come up with.

- Starfleet Marines exist. :p
 
The entire cast of Voyager, minus the Doctor, Kes and Tom Paris, drives me up a wall and makes even the few tolerable episodes of Voyager unwatchable for me. The dullness of Tuvok, Chakotay, Kim and Janeway, coupled with the annoying Neelix, Torres and Seven of Nine makes for a deadly combination.
 
I can't stand Chekov at all. All he did was take screen time away from Sulu, who rocks.

"The Squire of Gothos" is the best TOS episode as far as I'm concerned.

"Yesteryear" sucked.

"The Search for Spock" is the best movie.

"Darmok" sucks.

Aside from "Encounter at Farpoint" and "All Good Things..." Q should not have been on TNG.
 
I like "Masks".
I like STIV.
Brannon Braga gets too much hate.
Bill Shatner doesn't need to be in STXI.
DS9 gets way too talky at times.
Avery Brooks overacted far too often, but he was good when was subtle.
I liked Avery Brooks' performance in Far Beyond The Stars.
I like approximately 50% of all Voyager episodes ever written.
Seven of Nine was the best thing to ever happen to VOY.
 
egonbeeblebrox said:


Aside from "Encounter at Farpoint" and "All Good Things..." Q should not have been on TNG.

I know we're doing unpopular opinions, but why? If it weren't for Q, we wouldn't have seen the Borg, or Picard pretty much change before our eyes in Tapestry, or him giving Data the gift of laughter for the first time. I am just curious.
 
1001001 said:
I thought the Season 3 Xindi Arc on Enterprise was excellent.
I didn't think it was excellent but pretty good. It certainly provided a much needed sense of intrigue, mystery, suspense that the series needed as well as some nice visuals, sci-fi elements(the spheres, the five species of Xindi, time travel), and some decent character arcs for the Big Three. In fact, while season long arcs weren't anything new--the Xindi arc in a lot of ways was new in its approach. I would dare say it was a lighter version of the format that Heroes has adopted--a lot of mysteries and unanswered questions where a character only has a piece of the larger puzzle.

What holds it back is the inconsistency, the feeling that there wasn't enough material to sustain an entire season, and the handling of Trip/T'Pol.

As far as unpopular opinions:
I don't think TaTV is an abomination

Brannon Braga was a pretty good writer on TNG, VOY and some ENT.

DS9, while solid, isn't the greatest show the world has ever seen.

Most of the romantic pairings on Trek were poor.
 
LitmusDragon said:
3) "The Inner Light" is over-rated (it works as pure drama, but the plot is ridiculous)
4) "The Thaw" "Masks" and "Move Along Home" are good episodes

Agree about "The Inner Light". Can't stand "Masks", but I also agree about "The Thaw" and "Move Along Home". They're underrated gems, IMO.

To add to my list:

-I never understood why everybody thinks "The Visitor" is such a great episode. Good, yes, but the amount of praise that's heaped on that episode has always baffled me.

-I have no problem with the Chakotay/Seven pairing. In fact, it's about the only thing I liked about "Endgame".

-I despise Vic Fontainne.

-Seven and T'Pol were more than eye candy- they were pretty interesting characters.

-"And the Children Shall Lead" isn't that bad of an episode. Granted, casting Melvin Belli was a bad decision, but the episode itself wasn't bad.

-I can't stand Worf or any 24th century Klingons. Modern Trek took an interesting race and turned them into bad caricatures of what they once were.
 
tomalak301 said:
egonbeeblebrox said:


Aside from "Encounter at Farpoint" and "All Good Things..." Q should not have been on TNG.

I know we're doing unpopular opinions, but why? If it weren't for Q, we wouldn't have seen the Borg, or Picard pretty much change before our eyes in Tapestry, or him giving Data the gift of laughter for the first time. I am just curious.

Actually you could have done all those things without Q:

-The Enterprise could have ran into the Borg along the neutral zone and done the same analysis of them they did in "Q who"

-Tapestry could have been done on the Holosuite

-Data's gift of laughter is hardly a big deal

- I could have done without the crew in sherwood forest,I could have done without the teenage q, I could have done without Q trying to get riker to join the continuim, and I could have done without him on DS9 and Voyager. He had long since become a caricature of himself by this point.
 
You could do Tapestry on the Holodeck? Are you kidding me? People already hate the holodeck episodes. The reason this episode was meaningful was because Picard was on the edge of death and Q gave him a chance to look at his life and wonder what it would have been like if he hadn't been stabbed. Staging it on the holodeck would have lost all the power of the episode.
 
Boooo-ny said:
The writers had 2 1/2 seasons, not three, if we're being technical. The first was a short season. I will blame 7 for hogging a lot of post Season 4 storylines and being thrust into gratuitous, horrible ideas (the Doctor inside Seven, Seven/Chakotay, etc.). Not the characters fault or Jeri Ryan's. It was the writers who had no concept of what they were doing.

Yeah, but Seven was much better in Seasons Four and Five where Voyager improved greatly in almost every way after a pretty sophomoric Second Season and insomniac curing Season Three (but it went downhill again halfway into Season Six).

Anyway how come stating Seven of Nine saving Voyager is supposedly a "unpopular" opinion, when the actress who played the character was a impossibly hot chick (still is after a decade) and a first rate actress (she's one of the better performers after James Woods in Shark)?

Anyway the other original characters that I liked were Turvok, occasionally Neelix and Bellenna Torres...
 
Re: Your most unpopular Trek opinions

The Spooky Vulcan said:
I have an opinion which is truly unpopular, and will probably get me stoned.

Modern Trek Lit isn't very good (and I'm being as polite as I can be) It's 10 parts soap opera to 0 parts sci-fi, bloated, excessively interconnected, every other book depends on all the others, seems required by law to tie in to every single incarnation of Star Trek, and none of it is a patch on the books that were being published twenty years ago.

I agree. I have all the early Trek books, up to about the time where there were "linkage books" of all the series.

Originally, links between TOS and TNG were entertaining (for example: in the Reeves-Stevens Memory Prime , the Pathfinders link together information about the T'Kon Empire (from TNG: The Last Outpost ).

But the constant need to have threaded books is just tiresome. Ok, Captain's Table I enjoyed, but it went downhill from there. How can so many stories cross so many years yet affect the same crews time after time?

And the blandness of the books is phenomenal. No stories like Ford's The Final Reflection , or adventurous books (Kirk dying!) of The Entropy Effect .

Everything is just so bland now.
 
My most unpopular Trek opinion:

The EMH is BY FAR the most annoying character in all of Trek. Why people think arrogant, selfish, self-absorbed, and treasonous behavior is somehow 'funny' is beyond me.

IMO, there is no character in all of Trek more worthy of a nice, swift CTL-ALT-DEL in the pants. :p
 
Pegaritaville said:


-Seven and T'Pol were more than eye candy- they were pretty interesting characters.
Agreed. In a way I think Jerri Ryans hotness actually hurt the character, because everybody just thought she was eye candy and ignored the fact that she was actually a good actress playing a very interesting character. Same goes for Jolene Blalock and T'Pol, especially in the later part of the series.

Oh and one more thing to add:
I liked Endgame
 
PKTrekGirl said:
My most unpopular Trek opinion:

The EMH is BY FAR the most annoying character in all of Trek. Why people think arrogant, selfish, self-absorbed, and treasonous behavior is somehow 'funny' is beyond me.

I can't speak for his legions of fans, but in my case... because of his astonishing resemblance to an arrogant, selfish and self-absorbed person I know: Namely, myself. (No treason yet, but give me time!) And then there's his love of opera combined with Robert Picardo's charming, charismatic persona... and, yeah, he's pretty much the reason I kept watching Voyager all those years. When Enterprise rolled around, I saw how unbearable a Voyager-like show was without the Doctor around.

Besides, aren't you a Farscape fan? If I was going to single out the most repuslviely arrogant, obnoxious character in space opera TV that I've seen, it'd probably be John Crichton. That, alas, is another thread...
 
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