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Your Opinion: Is "Star Trek" Better or Worse Without Gene Roddenberry?

Is "Star Trek" Better or Worse Without Gene Roddenberry?


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It sounds to me like what you are saying is you prefer Trek that explores the human condition, Trek that has a moral, meaning, or message that either asks or answers thought provoking questions about life, the universe, and everything. In contrast, the Trek you don't care for relies on action-adventure space battles with shoot-em-ups and eye-candy special effects.
Pardon the pun, but I think there's more than enough room in the franchise, for "the best of both worlds". You don't have to completely sacrifice one for the other.
 
Pardon the pun, but I think there's more than enough room in the franchise, for "the best of both worlds". You don't have to completely sacrifice one for the other.

No one is saying that is the case, but it's clear some prefer one over the other. Some hard core Trek fans prefer cerebral stories, some casual fans prefer mindless action.

Variety is the spice of life. It's good to have options m
 
I consider Strange New Worlds to be at least in part a posthumous "Gene's Trek", as it not only features Pike and Spock from The Cage, and not one but TWO characters originally played by his wife Majel Barrett Roddenberry, but it also seemingly fits the vision he had from the beginning, featuring all the best of what made TOS great while adding modern special effects and even more ideals which line up with the direction I feel Gene was going in. It just seems like the show he'd make if he were still living.

Final Verdict? Undecided

I’m not so sure. I’m pretty certain Gene would have despised the light and comedic tone of SNW. It’s one of the reasons Gene Coon parted ways with Trek, he brought a lot of humour to his tenure and Roddenberry hated that and wanted a more serious tone and formality among the crew.
 
Both:

Trek is better for having had Roddenberry as a seminal influence in the early years through the seventies.

It is also better for having not let him hold the wheels forever.

see also George Lucas re Star Wars — my equivalent answer is the same.
 
It sounds to me like what you are saying is you prefer Trek that explores the human condition, Trek that has a moral, meaning, or message that either asks or answers thought provoking questions about life, the universe, and everything. In contrast, the Trek you don't care for relies on action-adventure space battles with shoot-em-ups and eye-candy special effects.

Yes and no. First Contact, 2009 Trek and into darkness all have a place in Star Trek. I suppose what I really don't like is the unrelentingly dark Treks. Or the ones that end badly. Or the ones that just plain are poor quality. It's not purely a black and white opinion, as Star Trek itself should never be. I'm out and about right now so a more detailed answer will be provided later on.
 
By 1982 Roddenberry was more an albatross than a flying eagle and by Season 3 of TNG we was shoved aside so that Berman - for all his many flaws - could run the franchise. And we're better off for it. Gene had his day, but by the 1980s those glory years were behind him.
 
Worse. For me the best Trek was in the years shortly after his leaving it. It was the perfect alchemy of both Roddenberry and Berman/Piller. I wouldn’t want him as lone showrunner, but his influence was definitely a positive one.
 
Do you find Balance of Terror unrelentingly dark?
Unrelentingly? No. That would be more Deep Space Nine at times, but not really my experience with other Treks. But, Balance of Terror did not end happy. It was, and still is, one of the episodes that hits me the deepest, moves me the most, and ends the most tragically.

ETA: Whoops, failed to include the second part of the quote I felt was relevant. Edited.
 
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So...Balance of Terror is out for you?

Balance of Terror is an individual episode of a largely optimistic series. You could also ask me if the Season 1 and 2 finales of Strange New Worlds were no-goes for me. Truth is, when it comes to the shows, I judge them based on their collective whole, and not based on specific episodes. If it helps, Balance of Terror is not one of my favorite TOS episodes, but it doesn't affect my love for TOS because there is also The Trouble With Tribbles. Another thing to take away from all of this is that there are exceptions to every rule.

EDIT: As an added thought, Balance of Terror prevented a war. Deep Space Nine actually went to war. THAT is the biggest difference between "Gene's Trek's" and the others, IMO.
 
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