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Your holo-program would be?

I wonder what it would feel like to be in a holodeck. Would something always feel off because it is just contained light?

I wonder if people would lose weight faster eating holographic food because their bodies are tricked into saliva and digestive production yet no calories are consumed.

Food eaten in a holodeck program is real. It's not holo-food. It's just like anything that comes out of a replicator.
 
I wonder what it would feel like to be in a holodeck. Would something always feel off because it is just contained light?

I wonder if people would lose weight faster eating holographic food because their bodies are tricked into saliva and digestive production yet no calories are consumed.

Food eaten in a holodeck program is real. It's not holo-food. It's just like anything that comes out of a replicator.


How's that possible? I thought if you stepped off the holodeck all the food you ate would disappear from your stomach.

If it was real then when they end program all the food would drop to the ground and have to be cleaned up.
 
I don't know how my programs would change based on being stranded in the DQ. I guess they'd be more escapist and probably have a game aspect. When I need something to distract me from stress, I turn to marathoning television shows, running activities and challenging video games. So I'd do a lot of stuff like setting up a Spartan Race then trying to beat my time. And maybe I'd program some escape the room puzzles. And I'd watch some long running holo-series in passive observation mode if I didn't feel like thinking.

Edit: Now that I think more about it, Escape The Room games in holodecks have got to be a huge thing in the Star Trek universe. There are just so many awesome possibilities.
 
I wonder what it would feel like to be in a holodeck. Would something always feel off because it is just contained light?

I wonder if people would lose weight faster eating holographic food because their bodies are tricked into saliva and digestive production yet no calories are consumed.

Food eaten in a holodeck program is real. It's not holo-food. It's just like anything that comes out of a replicator.

According to Star Trek. Replicators are re sequenced molecules. Holodecks are photonic projections. So yes, it is holo food. When you're no longer within the emitter range, the illusions disappear. It's not a giant replicator.

Unless of course you bring a picnic with you. Then that is different. But if your holographic chef, makes a meal from a holographic cow, and holographic vegetables, then your'e eating a holographic meal.
 
The *environment* of a holodeck program is indeed holographic, but any food eaten in it is absolutely real - replicated food, yes, but still real. As are other, minor things that are also easily replicatable (witness that one TNG ep where we see somebody get hit by a snowball from the holodeck - yes, that was real too).

As for cleaning up any uneaten food: The computer does it automatically, of course. That's a trivial task. We've seen crewmembers put a plate of uneaten food back into the replicator for the computer to recycle; this is no different. In this case, the holodeck really is a giant replicator. Any uneaten food will be recycled automatically when the holodeck program ends.
 
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The *environment* of a holodeck program is indeed holographic, but any food eaten in it is absoutely real - replicated food, yes, but still real. As are other, minor things that are also easily replicatable (witness that one TNG ep where we see somebody get hit by a snowball from the holodeck - yes, that was real too).

As for cleaning up any uneaten food: The computer does it automatically, of course. That's a trivial task. We've seen crewmembers put a plate of uneaten food back into the replicator for the computer to recycle; this is no different. In this case, the holodeck really is a giant replicator. Any uneaten food will be recycled automatically when the holodeck program ends.

Dude stop killing my dreams of calorie free food.
 
The *environment* of a holodeck program is indeed holographic, but any food eaten in it is absolutely real - replicated food, yes, but still real. As are other, minor things that are also easily replicatable (witness that one TNG ep where we see somebody get hit by a snowball from the holodeck - yes, that was real too).

As for cleaning up any uneaten food: The computer does it automatically, of course. That's a trivial task. We've seen crewmembers put a plate of uneaten food back into the replicator for the computer to recycle; this is no different. In this case, the holodeck really is a giant replicator. Any uneaten food will be recycled automatically when the holodeck program ends.


Based on the "science" of Star Trek. Holodeck = photonic projections. Replicators = re sequenced molecules. You're letting plot holes influence what your definition is.

Bottom line. Holodeck is not a replicator. It's photonic projection. There is no re sequencing of moleculres because the emitters emit photonic projections. A photonic projection of food isn't real.

The snowball in that episode wasn't real. It's called inconsistent writing. It doesn't matter what plot hole a writer created because it was convenient for that episode. It is contradictory to the established technology.
 
It's not said explicitly in the series that holo-food is replicated, but I think it's a reasonable assumption we can make. Or at least, the holosuite manufacturers would have made it a feature after the tenth starvation lawsuit.
 
I thought that snowball was only able to be off the holodeck momentarily like that gangster in the gangster holodeck episode.

If the food is real then I guess the safety protocols won't save you if you choke on an unsalted pretzel on the holodeck :D And what happens when you chew on the scenery, literally?

It would make sense to have both real and photonic food on the holodec: real for when you want an actual meal, photonic for when you want to fight a giant monster made out of hot dogs.
 
It's not said explicitly in the series that holo-food is replicated, but I think it's a reasonable assumption we can make.
It is heavily implied, to say the least. And the implementation is completely trivial using the technology depicted.

As for the snowball and water dripping from Wesley et cetera, the replicator angle would actually be a somewhat satisfactory in-universe explanation for what was most likely simply an out-of-universe oversight.

It would make sense to have both real and photonic food on the holodec: real for when you want an actual meal, photonic for when you want to fight a giant monster made out of hot dogs.
"Computer: Load program Riker-117, please note: I want to eat the hot dog monster after the combat scenario is completed."
 
I thought that snowball was only able to be off the holodeck momentarily like that gangster in the gangster holodeck episode.

No, for all we know the snowball is real - somebody gets hit with one and we don't see his clothing suddenly become dry or anything like that. Near as we can tell, the snowball was replicated. Like the food ;) and the piece of paper drawn by Moriarty which depicts the Enterprise.
 
Can anyone make sense out of how Janeway was soaked from a holographic river? On top of that bone dry during a Red alert summoning? Was there Car wash grade heaters at the doors to dry off your photonic wet tresses? The moisture ceases to exist after program stops?
 
We have these hand dryers that have appeared in recent years where you stick your hands in and it blasts you and within a moment they are totally dry. And I bet they don't need to do that with actual blasting force, probably sonic dryers.
 
Another hiking trip with B' Elanna who is programmed with Blood Fever. I am the mature one.
And you can't eat photonic food. It would have to disappear in your mouth.
 
After about 15 minutes she would reach for your pants.When should the holodeck safety protocall beacon flash on? Should this be the third attempt? Suppose it would stay on after awhile.
 
No, for all we know the snowball is real - somebody gets hit with one and we don't see his clothing suddenly become dry or anything like that. Near as we can tell, the snowball was replicated. Like the food ;) and the piece of paper drawn by Moriarty which depicts the Enterprise.

Wow nice catch, seen that episode many times and I never thought of how that paper was able to be off the holodeck.
 
Hey, Catarina, some cadet has used your same question in a more explicit manner as their very first post over in TNG. ;)
 
I would be running Paris' Captain Proton program all day, since I recognized nearly every riff on movie serials in it.

I would totally play Captain Proton! :D

I cannot begin to describe my love of the Captain Proton program. That could keep me entertained for years. :bolian:

A PG-rated Horatio Hornblower-esque program could also be a lot of fun. Or maybe a swashbuckling pirate . . .

As baseball-obsessed as I am (sorry if I talk about it too much, BTW - but what the hell, I'm answering this thread honestly), I don't know if I'd use the holodeck for that. Maybe to relive classic games or series (such as the 1977 WS), or to get a glimpse of ballparks that I never got the chance to see - Crosley Field, Forbes Field, Comiskey Park, Tiger Stadium, etc. - but as for ones that exist today, I think I'd prefer to visit them for 'real'.

Maybe I'd ask the computer to simulate series that never existed at all, such as the 1994 World Series.

Maybe games between all-star versions of teams – all-time Yankess vs. all-time Giants?

Come to think of it, the holodeck ought to be able to allow you to physically play as any historical player, using their statistics to augment the outcomes of your native ability. That could be interesting.


I might also like to visit places that are inhospitable to life, even in Star Trek's time, or that don't exist now (or perhaps never did in quite that form). What would it be like to watch snow fall in the desert, or to swim in light at the surface of the sun?
 
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