Poll Your favourite modern Treks
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Lower Decks.
Until I can get around to setting up a free trial of Paramount+ I'll have to hold judgement on SNW and Prodigy.
Until I can get around to setting up a free trial of Paramount+ I'll have to hold judgement on SNW and Prodigy.
Prodigy is great for what it is, but the first season isn't done so I can't really say for certain. I like most of Discovery sans season 4, all of LD, the Kelvin films, and SNW is IMO the best first season of any Trek series, TOS included.
Picard is too inconsistent for me to check that box, right now.
Picard is too inconsistent for me to check that box, right now.
With some qualifications, I like...
Kelvin Films - Like them all, easily in the top half of Trek films.
Disco - S1 = loved. S2 = very much liked S3 = okay Haven't seen S4, partly as a protest against the move to P+, partly because S3 put me off a bit.
Picard - Liked much of S1 and S2, but the pacing is bad and the cast changes really such a sour note that I'm not all that interested in S3.
I'm not sure about Lower Decks. The characters are mostly grating, there are few genuinely clever references (as opposed to just namedropping) and I just don't find it very funny - especially S2. It has its moments but it's not must-watch for me.
Haven't seen Prodigy or SNW. The former doesn't interest me, and I'll get around to the latter when I finally get P+.
Kelvin Films - Like them all, easily in the top half of Trek films.
Disco - S1 = loved. S2 = very much liked S3 = okay Haven't seen S4, partly as a protest against the move to P+, partly because S3 put me off a bit.
Picard - Liked much of S1 and S2, but the pacing is bad and the cast changes really such a sour note that I'm not all that interested in S3.
I'm not sure about Lower Decks. The characters are mostly grating, there are few genuinely clever references (as opposed to just namedropping) and I just don't find it very funny - especially S2. It has its moments but it's not must-watch for me.
Haven't seen Prodigy or SNW. The former doesn't interest me, and I'll get around to the latter when I finally get P+.
Hate’s a strong word, but I find I’m not necessarily favourable to most of these shows, although I have been open to watching all of them.
Discovery is very much a superheroes-in-space show. And that leads to polarizing views on the show – good and bad, and optimist and cynic. I feel the show is a bunch of untapped potential and that’s the most frustrating thing about it.
After the first season, Picard was an interesting – if bleak - look at where the TNG era was years removed from NEM and the Romulan supernova. After S2, Picard is a show about Picard coming to terms of important people close to him having committed suicide as much as it is a TNG era swansong. Not a subject matter I can be enthusiastic about. I’m expecting S3 to be leading to Picard’s self sacrifice at the end of the season and series.
Lower Decks is the only show I really have affinity for, but I also realized that its also clothed in nostalgic references (nostalgic elements have been the best parts of PIC). Its hard to tell how likable the show would be if it did not rely on nostalgia, cameos, and Easter eggs.
Strange New Worlds is a show that I was initially excited about. I can tell with the recaps that someone really wants this supposedly episodic show to be a serialized show. Nothing wrong with continuity, but there’s a difference between serialization and continuity. SNW feels in many ways a modernized retelling of TOS and will at some point will significantly break with continuity down the line.
With Prodigy, I get it’s a kids show, but at times it’s a slog to get through even though I like the animation and how accurate the CGI is to live action.
Kelvin movies are shallow action movies and always trying to recreate better Trek films, despite original ideas worthy of the big screen being present in non-canon work related to the Kelvin timeline.
Discovery is very much a superheroes-in-space show. And that leads to polarizing views on the show – good and bad, and optimist and cynic. I feel the show is a bunch of untapped potential and that’s the most frustrating thing about it.
After the first season, Picard was an interesting – if bleak - look at where the TNG era was years removed from NEM and the Romulan supernova. After S2, Picard is a show about Picard coming to terms of important people close to him having committed suicide as much as it is a TNG era swansong. Not a subject matter I can be enthusiastic about. I’m expecting S3 to be leading to Picard’s self sacrifice at the end of the season and series.
Lower Decks is the only show I really have affinity for, but I also realized that its also clothed in nostalgic references (nostalgic elements have been the best parts of PIC). Its hard to tell how likable the show would be if it did not rely on nostalgia, cameos, and Easter eggs.
Strange New Worlds is a show that I was initially excited about. I can tell with the recaps that someone really wants this supposedly episodic show to be a serialized show. Nothing wrong with continuity, but there’s a difference between serialization and continuity. SNW feels in many ways a modernized retelling of TOS and will at some point will significantly break with continuity down the line.
With Prodigy, I get it’s a kids show, but at times it’s a slog to get through even though I like the animation and how accurate the CGI is to live action.
Kelvin movies are shallow action movies and always trying to recreate better Trek films, despite original ideas worthy of the big screen being present in non-canon work related to the Kelvin timeline.
I voted for Strange New Worlds (awesome), Prodigy (awesome) and Lower Decks (took the first half or so of season 1 to hook me, but did). I would've voted for Short Treks if it was listed and would've voted for the Kelvin films if it wasn't for Into Darkness (Beyond was genuinely good and 2009 was stupid fun, but ID left a horrible taste in my mouth).
In addition to the Kelvin films I didn't vote for Discovery (I've enjoyed it a little more each season, but it's still all over the place) and Picard (season 2 was ok but meandering and season 1 depressed the hell out of me).
In addition to the Kelvin films I didn't vote for Discovery (I've enjoyed it a little more each season, but it's still all over the place) and Picard (season 2 was ok but meandering and season 1 depressed the hell out of me).
Kelvin movies.
Try as I might ( and I adore Seven), I cannot get immersed in the new Trek series the way I did with the older set...
Try as I might ( and I adore Seven), I cannot get immersed in the new Trek series the way I did with the older set...
I like them all, but to differing degrees. I go:
1. DSC
2. PIC
3. LD
4. SNW
5. PRO
I don't really think of the Kelvin movies as being lumped in with those, but I like them too.
1. DSC
2. PIC
3. LD
4. SNW
5. PRO
I don't really think of the Kelvin movies as being lumped in with those, but I like them too.
I don't like Discovery but I only watched 2 and a half episodes.
Never seen any other Paramount+ shows.
I like most of 09, some of Into Darkness, and Beyond is okay but feels samey with all the revenge and destroying the Enterprise.
To be honest, the last time I really wholeheartedly liked new Star Trek without qualification was probably 1997.
Never seen any other Paramount+ shows.
I like most of 09, some of Into Darkness, and Beyond is okay but feels samey with all the revenge and destroying the Enterprise.
To be honest, the last time I really wholeheartedly liked new Star Trek without qualification was probably 1997.
Interesting how SNW and LD seem to be the most popular.
"Lower Decks" is now the most entertaining, but SNW is my favorite "serious" show. "Picard" is far from perfect, but I like it's continuation of the "Star Trek" saga from after "Voyager."
DISCO is all over the place, and the Abrams movies are just TOS with a makeover.
DISCO is all over the place, and the Abrams movies are just TOS with a makeover.
For me, there's a nugget of something enjoyable in all of them, which has always been the case for me with Trek. BUT I could bring myself to vote only for two of them here (Picard and Lower Decks) because:
- Contrary to what the consensus may be on this board, Discovery IMO has been losing quality with every season. It may have started out absurd and overwrought and aimless, but at least it was fun in the first two seasons in a TOS Season 3 kind of way. The last two seasons, and especially S4, was mind-numbingly boring in addition to its baffling focus on touchy-feely soap narratives rather than the grand adventure I like my Trek to be.
- Strange New Worlds started out great, no doubt, and it has a lot of potential. But I don't (yet) think it's the best of the modern shows. It may be the old-fashioned canon-monger in me, but I have issues aligning the characterizations here with what we were previously shown on TOS, particularly the Spock/T'Pring relationship and Chapel. That may have more to do with a limitation of my Trek socialization rather than anything they did "wrong", but it gets in the way for me. Also, the show veers into the comedic a bit too often for my taste.
- Of Prodigy, I've only seen a handful of episodes yet. This is Star Wars Rebels set in the Trek universe. I liked Star Wars Rebels, so that's fine, but when I want to watch SW, I watch SW - there's plenty of it these days. Ironically, however, I think Prodigy does Star Wars better than several of the recent SW shows on Disney+, so...
- Lower Decks then is great because it is bite-sized Trek every week, it loves and respects the Tr.ek legacy (while also lampooning it) and it's plain fun. Picard is my favorite. I see why people have issues with it. Its writing is unnecessarily convoluted and their insistence on serialized storytelling means they throw many balls in the air early on, several of which they fail to catch at the end. But on a second viewing, some of the confusion falls away and one can appreciate the themes and character arcs much better. I think it's exciting and moving and daring. Can't wait for S3.
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