There is a loud...very loud, angry and negative segment of every fandom. When Enterprise was going to be cancelled, there was a very successful letter writing campaign to keep it alive. This may or may not have had an impact, but ENT was given a fourth season. When it was going to be cancelled again, there was a large online fundraising campaign. And there was a whole bunch of Trek fans campaigning to shut it down/take it off the air at the same time.
It's really interesting to me to see TMP get a lot love. I enjoy it, and... I actually like the uniforms... but I always had the impression that it wasn't a well liked film. Was I always just wrong to think that? Or is the movie gaining newfound appreciation? A little of both?
It's really interesting to me to see TMP get a lot love. I enjoy it, and... I actually like the uniforms... but I always had the impression that it wasn't a well liked film. Was I always just wrong to think that? Or is the movie gaining newfound appreciation? A little of both?
I don't know, I always thought it was the best of Trek movies and still is.
There's still a lot of folk who label it 'the Motionless Picture'
Believe it or not, I've never heard that one before.
That's perfect.
I can't tell if you're taking the piss or not.![]()
I'm shocked. It's a familiar term in these parts.
I did. I'll face the mob with you.Does anyone feel like the actors in both the latter TOS movies and latter TNG movies are just a bit too old for the roles they're in? Or did I just condemn myself to a painful death by a violent mob...
Not at all. The fact that they're all getting older is, to me, at the heart of all of the TOS films. I loved it. I thought it gave those movies an emotional and challenging undercurrent. Some of the most memorable scenes in those films are about them aging -- in WOK when Bones talks to Kirk in his apartment about retirement, at the end of TUC with that final Kirk speech, in TMP when Spock talks about "This simple feeling" which is rooted in years of friendship and service with Kirk, or the ethical personal dilemma Kirk has with his need for adventure and fear of becoming obsolete, etc. Those are powerful moments. The TOS films are just one great big arc for the original crew as they move into retirement and have to let go, giving the next generation (literally and figuratively) the reins.Does anyone feel like the actors in both the latter TOS movies and latter TNG movies are just a bit too old for the roles they're in? Or did I just condemn myself to a painful death by a violent mob...
Not at all. The fact that they're all getting older is, to me, at the heart of all of the TOS films. I loved it. I thought it gave those movies an emotional and challenging undercurrent. Some of the most memorable scenes in those films are about them aging -- in WOK when Bones talks to Kirk in his apartment about retirement, at the end of TUC with that final Kirk speech, in TMP when Spock talks about "This simple feeling" which is rooted in years of friendship and service with Kirk, or the ethical personal dilemma Kirk has with his need for adventure and fear of becoming obsolete, etc. Those are powerful moments. The TOS films are just one great big arc for the original crew as they move into retirement and have to let go, giving the next generation (literally and figuratively) the reins.
The only time the TNG films really got close to this kind of thing was the wedding in Nemesis, which a lot of people dislike, but I found to be surprisingly moving.
If you value your safety, you should know better than to use the "M" word around here...roles if we're parallelling, say our military of the day,
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