INSURRECTION has a lovely soundtrack if nothing else.
Your favorite movie and why?
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INSURRECTION has a lovely soundtrack if nothing else.
Lovely location filming too. It felt sunny and optimistic, despite the cliched evil admiral.
As I always say, depends on mood. Up the top in no particular order are 4, 7, 13. Next group would be 2, 6, 8, 9 and 11, then 1, 3, 5, then 10, 12.
Insurrection has some gorgeous scenes of the Enterprise-E. So even if it ranks low as a film it is quite high as starship porn!
Khan is somewhat like the Borg, an interesting idea that was over used. Khan should have been discontinued after his second appearance, just as the Borg should have after their first appearance in Voyager.It's too bad Khan never made any other appearances...
If Voyager had gone with the Borg being just a relatively small number of scattered roaming cubes (instead of this vast multi-trillion population) than the repeated single cube attacks would have made more sense ... imho.
Anthony Zerbe is on my second tier favorite actor list, love his body of work. I never felt that Admiral Dougherty was evil, more a Starfleet officer on just another assignment who gradually lost control of the situation surrounding him. By the time of his murder, no one was listening to him.
My favorite movie would be First Contact. It was the first Star Trek film I remember seeing in theaters with my dad and we really got a kick out of it. It brings a lot of new info about the first warp flight by humans and is a good story with nice action.
My most favorite is Star Trek: First Contact.....was such a great movie.
I love almost all the Trek movies, perhaps with the exception of Insurrection and Into Darkness...but I'd have to say that my favorites are TMP and TWOK.
I love TMP because it is a movie. It is grand, has an awesome score and awe-inspiring visuals. The production design is first-rate. It really is the most immersive experience of all the Trek films. The characters are shown as having moved on and both Kirk and Spock have meaningful arcs that "conclude" by the end of the film. There is good drama and conflict brought to light with the addition of the Decker and Ilia characters. There is also a really interesting sci-fi premise of artificial intelligence and evolution to explore, not to mention a very real sense of wonder and discovery at play through the whole film. This was also the first opportunity to have Earth itself at stake in a tangible way...before it became a cliche.
I love TWOK because it is a simple, straight-line adventure/revenge story (again, before it became a cliche) that has great energy, colorful characters, and high stakes. It has exciting visuals, is dynamic, and is very intense at times. The direction and performances were such that you really believed in the "realness" of the Trek universe in this film...it has a more gritty, realistic feel to it and that it really ADVANCES. The characters have evolved again, and there are some great arcs here too (family, aging, sacrifice, consequences). There's a cool sci-fi concept thrown in (Genesis Device) and a moral / ethical dilemma associated with it. There's emotional power in the deaths, the crippling of the Enterprise, and the sacrifice of Spock. I also find the element of Kirk being reunited with his son to be poignant. Quite simply, it's a movie with a lot going on, but it's presentation is so clean, simple and fun that it all works. Sometimes I wonder if it "works" by accident...!
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I love TMP because it is a movie. It is grand, has an awesome score and awe-inspiring visuals. The production design is first-rate. It really is the most immersive experience of all the Trek films. The characters are shown as having moved on and both Kirk and Spock have meaningful arcs that "conclude" by the end of the film. There is good drama and conflict brought to light with the addition of the Decker and Ilia characters. There is also a really interesting sci-fi premise of artificial intelligence and evolution to explore, not to mention a very real sense of wonder and discovery at play through the whole film. This was also the first opportunity to have Earth itself at stake in a tangible way...before it became a cliche.
I love TWOK because it is a simple, straight-line adventure/revenge story (again, before it became a cliche) that has great energy, colorful characters, and high stakes. It has exciting visuals, is dynamic, and is very intense at times. The direction and performances were such that you really believed in the "realness" of the Trek universe in this film...it has a more gritty, realistic feel to it and that it really ADVANCES. The characters have evolved again, and there are some great arcs here too (family, aging, sacrifice, consequences). There's a cool sci-fi concept thrown in (Genesis Device) and a moral / ethical dilemma associated with it. There's emotional power in the deaths, the crippling of the Enterprise, and the sacrifice of Spock. I also find the element of Kirk being reunited with his son to be poignant. Quite simply, it's a movie with a lot going on, but it's presentation is so clean, simple and fun that it all works. Sometimes I wonder if it "works" by accident...!
Runners up would be
TSFS
TFF
FC
2009
Beyond is my favorite.
The best? Star Trek 09. Really without a doubt. It ranks number 1 with both critics and fans on all the major ranking sites, IMDB, Rotten Tomatoes, etc. It's The highest grossing (with disc sales included). It has more award nominations and wins than any Trek movie and was the only Trek movie to get a Writer's Guild Award nomination for its script.
The best? Star Trek 09. Really without a doubt. It ranks number 1 with both critics and fans on all the major ranking sites, IMDB, Rotten Tomatoes, etc. It's The highest grossing (with disc sales included). It has more award nominations and wins than any Trek movie and was the only Trek movie to get a Writer's Guild Award nomination for its script.
Star Trek Into Darkness is the highest grossing Star Trek film in worldwide box office of course. Star Trek: The Motion Picture is the second highest box office grossing Trek film adjusting for inflation.
Furthermore, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home received 4 Academy Award nominations and Star Trek: The Motion Picture received 3 Oscar nominations.
Furthermore, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home received 4 Academy Award nominations and Star Trek: The Motion Picture received 3 Oscar nominations.
Since when have sales been an indication of quality?
You're right, it's not. I just wanted to set the record straight. Besides the thread is about our favorite Trek movie and why, so box office gross and nominations and awards have no relevance whatsoever.
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My favorite Trek film changes, but it's always one of these three: TMP, TUC, WOK. At this point I'd probably put them in that order. But it's more or less a tie in the grand scheme of things.
Gotta be First Contact! It finally felt like the big Star Trek film TNG needed to kick the movies into high gear. At least until Insurrection came along...ugh...
I still look on Wrath of Khan as my favorite. It is the leap of faith for Star Trek, that allowed, for the first time, the characters to be what the adventure is about. The growth, & bonds that were explored in that film paved the way for the rest to wholeheartedly embrace. Until then, Star Trek was about the concepts of a spacefaring future, a spirit of exploration , a vision of an enlightened time for humanity etc..., but almost nowhere in it was there room for the characters to grow... until TWoK & thereafter
That's an important distinction, because, Star Trek was cancelled, & the public never really embraced it again until they made the shift to having it be about the characters, because the thing that kept it alive in people's hearts all those years it was gone, & in reruns, was the love of those characters, not spaceships, or aliens, or Starfleet. It was that people loved Spock & Kirk, & Bones & Scotty, etc... They enjoyed those people, & wanted to see them come to life & come into their own on the big screen
That's an important distinction, because, Star Trek was cancelled, & the public never really embraced it again until they made the shift to having it be about the characters, because the thing that kept it alive in people's hearts all those years it was gone, & in reruns, was the love of those characters, not spaceships, or aliens, or Starfleet. It was that people loved Spock & Kirk, & Bones & Scotty, etc... They enjoyed those people, & wanted to see them come to life & come into their own on the big screen
It's really interesting to me to see TMP get a lot love. I enjoy it, and... I actually like the uniforms... but I always had the impression that it wasn't a well liked film. Was I always just wrong to think that? Or is the movie gaining newfound appreciation? A little of both?
It was quite popular, but that was before the dark times...before the Internet! Or as Doug Decker puts it "Before the geeks won the revolution."
There is a loud...very loud, angry and negative segment of every fandom. When Enterprise was going to be cancelled, there was a very successful letter writing campaign to keep it alive. This may or may not have had an impact, but ENT was given a fourth season. When it was going to be cancelled again, there was a large online fundraising campaign. And there was a whole bunch of Trek fans campaigning to shut it down/take it off the air at the same time.
First Contact-TNG's best movie and honestly it should have ended then.
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