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Your approach?

But those who would be upset about a copper deflector dish are watching it right?

I wouldn't reboot or restart or recast. I would let it be. Star Trek was about the '60s, made in the '60s. The K/S/McC troika was serendipitous genius portrayed by certain actors who could do certain eyebrow lifts with certain act-ending music stabs, on a bridge with miniskirted women on "modern" furniture in a navy vessel going out to spread the American way even though they said they weren't.

Let it be. Let the 2010s come up with its own art. I won't like it as much as 1966 Star Trek, but that's fine, thanks to the miracle of DVD.

Don't try put new wine in old wineskins.
 
There are so many elements that went into the magic of TOS. That can't ever be done in quite the same way because the people who brought it to life aren't available anymore. The Shatner of 2010 isn't the Shatner of 1966 and same with everyone else involved with creating the show.
 
That's because the committies were put together by vultures. Ahem, Rick Berman.
 
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It's interesting: Gene Roddenberry advised his writers to handle Trek as a kind of serious period piece rather than as juvenile twaddle and Matthew Weiner, creator of Mad Men, has likened the experience of recreating the early 1960s as akin to science fiction. I think the appeal of a TOS is in this inherent contradiction: it's much more about the 1960s than it is about the 2260s. Thus any revival of mine would go out of its way to evoke this, to be Mad Men in Space. There are touches of this deliberate retro-futurism in Trek '09: the Kelvin uniforms are reminiscent of 1950 B-movie costumes and the phasers harken all the way to the sci-fi serials of Buster Crabbe. I'd have just gone all the way, like in "Trials and Tribble-lations" and "In a Mirror Darkly," only with aluminum instead of plywood and more detail on props that look, in essence, unchanged from the original designs. I'd have it be a direct sequel sequel to TOS, the first episode of the fourth season, and I'd eschew the rogue Bond villain archetype, which only really worked with Khan, for threat that is more an expression of existential uncertainty in the face of the unknown (like Vejur) or the political "realities" of the Star Trek universe (Kruge and Chang were imperfect versions of this). And there would be no time travel. Also, I'd find a job for a barely updated Wah Chang Romulan Bird of Prey because I like them so much and because they are the finest examples of Star Trek's retro-futurism.

So, 1980's Flash Gordon?

I mean, I loved it, but wouldn't want to see Trek do that.

I can agree with the general consensus of a hard reboot, no time travel. On the other hand, it kind of kicks Leonard Nimoy to the curb. :(
 
But those who would be upset about a copper deflector dish are watching it right?

I wouldn't reboot or restart or recast. I would let it be. Star Trek was about the '60s, made in the '60s. The K/S/McC troika was serendipitous genius portrayed by certain actors who could do certain eyebrow lifts with certain act-ending music stabs, on a bridge with miniskirted women on "modern" furniture in a navy vessel going out to spread the American way even though they said they weren't.

Let it be. Let the 2010s come up with its own art. I won't like it as much as 1966 Star Trek, but that's fine, thanks to the miracle of DVD.

Don't try put new wine in old wineskins.

And then there's this, which can be filed in "truer words."
 
It's interesting: Gene Roddenberry advised his writers to handle Trek as a kind of serious period piece rather than as juvenile twaddle and Matthew Weiner, creator of Mad Men, has likened the experience of recreating the early 1960s as akin to science fiction. I think the appeal of a TOS is in this inherent contradiction: it's much more about the 1960s than it is about the 2260s. Thus any revival of mine would go out of its way to evoke this, to be Mad Men in Space. There are touches of this deliberate retro-futurism in Trek '09: the Kelvin uniforms are reminiscent of 1950 B-movie costumes and the phasers harken all the way to the sci-fi serials of Buster Crabbe. I'd have just gone all the way, like in "Trials and Tribble-lations" and "In a Mirror Darkly," only with aluminum instead of plywood and more detail on props that look, in essence, unchanged from the original designs. I'd have it be a direct sequel sequel to TOS, the first episode of the fourth season, and I'd eschew the rogue Bond villain archetype, which only really worked with Khan, for threat that is more an expression of existential uncertainty in the face of the unknown (like Vejur) or the political "realities" of the Star Trek universe (Kruge and Chang were imperfect versions of this). And there would be no time travel. Also, I'd find a job for a barely updated Wah Chang Romulan Bird of Prey because I like them so much and because they are the finest examples of Star Trek's retro-futurism.

So, 1980's Flash Gordon?

I mean, I loved it, but wouldn't want to see Trek do that.

I can agree with the general consensus of a hard reboot, no time travel. On the other hand, it kind of kicks Leonard Nimoy to the curb. :(

No, that was a camp spectacular because the original Flash Gordon was tissue thin and impossible to take seriously. I'm talking about Trek done as TOS rather than the monstrously entertaining but rather imbecilic Gold Key Comic we got last summer--indeed, Trek '09 was far more like 1980's FG than what I've described would be.

Besides, I could easily compare the consensus you describe as Larson's Buck Rogers. Modernized or retro, camp is camp.

EDIT: Actually, what I'm describing is far more like Flash Gordon cartoon from the early 80s, the one scripted by Samuel Peeples. That was actually a bit more sophisticated that the serials without "modernizing" a damned thing.
 
I think I have a good idea. If they're gonna do Star Trek again why not do it completely different - new designs - new story. How about not boldly going but being drawn into something. Something big and ultimately advanced little by little exploring the wonders of the universe and its monstrous technological alien complexities.
Roddenberry's approach was that something was coming or we were being drawn into something that has malfunctioned. I.e. - See Voyager's 'Exeter'? Being pulled into a distorted and difracted projection and reflection of Humanity and reality.
 
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I'm not unhappy with the notion of an alternate timeline reboot, although I would have much preferred Kirk to be the thoughtful bookworm teased into command by events instead of the arrogant walking hormone thrust there because Pike has a man-crush on his father. To his credit, Pine gives us glimpses of a Kirk who knows his bravado is a front that can only take hims so far in a few scenes.

In a lot of ways setting up a war between the super powers would have made a more interesting backdrop for a trilogy of Trek movies than one insanely evil, one-dimensional uber-villain. As a backdrop, lots of plot threads can be seeded into this, in the same way as DS9 used it as fertile ground. In fact, a time-travelling Romulan sparking a war could have bought closure to the Enterprise Time War storyline and allowed us to explore a universe akin to Yesterday's Enterprise without ever having to refer back to the series.

I would have introduced a wider cast of alien crew (from established Federation races) for possible elevation to supporting cast in future films (in much the same way as the X-men films had cameos for characters that they used later on. I'd probably have had Ilia at navigation and Rand as the captain's aide to even up the number of women.
 
Nero should have been dressed as a bat, and speaking in a raspy voice for no apparent reason. Chekov should have been a sexy werewolf. There should have been a triceratops serving in engineering, and a saw-wielding maniac chasing crewman around the ship. And there should have been lots and lots of transforming robots!
 
Nero should have been dressed as a bat, and speaking in a raspy voice for no apparent reason. Chekov should have been a sexy werewolf. There should have been a triceratops serving in engineering, and a saw-wielding maniac chasing crewman around the ship. And there should have been lots and lots of transforming robots!
Well, it would have been more entertaining. :lol:
 
Nero should have been dressed as a bat, and speaking in a raspy voice for no apparent reason. Chekov should have been a sexy werewolf. There should have been a triceratops serving in engineering, and a saw-wielding maniac chasing crewman around the ship. And there should have been lots and lots of transforming robots!

Lol - still, all joking aside, I'd be quite happy if they tried an alienesque 'landing party in peril' sub-plot in the next movie as long as it includes characters who rarely get off the ship. We know from STIV that huge space battles are not always necessary for a good movie (although a space battle finale usually helps).

It's a shame Spock already picked a replacement colony - a plot revolving around a Carol Marcus led survey team might be fun.
 
Nero should have been dressed as a bat, and speaking in a raspy voice for no apparent reason. Chekov should have been a sexy werewolf. There should have been a triceratops serving in engineering, and a saw-wielding maniac chasing crewman around the ship. And there should have been lots and lots of transforming robots!

Shhhh....you'll give away the sequel...
 
Nero should have been dressed as a bat, and speaking in a raspy voice for no apparent reason. Chekov should have been a sexy werewolf. There should have been a triceratops serving in engineering, and a saw-wielding maniac chasing crewman around the ship. And there should have been lots and lots of transforming robots!

Lol - still, all joking aside, I'd be quite happy if they tried an alienesque 'landing party in peril' sub-plot in the next movie as long as it includes characters who rarely get off the ship. We know from STIV that huge space battles are not always necessary for a good movie (although a space battle finale usually helps).

It's a shame Spock already picked a replacement colony - a plot revolving around a Carol Marcus led survey team might be fun.

Oooh, you just thought of a great way they could remake TWOK! :devil:
 
I'd do this:

CGI animated film.

Kirk and Spock era... you know, real Star Trek.

Updated the look of the ship while keeping the same basic shape, as they did in the new movie.

SF story by a real SF writer.

Have a sense of wonder about the universe, a sense that the galaxy is unexplored and there are a lot of unknowns.

Maybe... just maybe... LOST-style flashbacks for the big three characters.
 
SF story by a real SF writer.

THANK you. Everybody thinks he or she can write. Star Trek (the series) accepted stories submitted by real writers, from the age when the words mattered. As opposed to needing-to-come-up-with-some-story (Hey! How about a villain to defeat?!) for a movie we know we're going to make.
 
Thirded.

There have been some people around here who say that tv has "evolved" too much to let writers of genre books and stories write scripts. Of course, they ignore The Wire, considered by many to be the best tv show ever and which employed Richard Price, Dennis Lehane and George Pelecanos, crime fiction heavy hitters all. But Star Trek can only rate the guys who gave us the scripts to both Transformers movies? I mean, I had a ball with the movie but its script never rises above the level of the juvenile and spends more than a little of its running time in the solidly imbecilic.
 
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