I enjoyed it, too.
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And Wally finally finds out about Conner & M'gann. 
This episode underscored the kid in Kid Flash. 
I was a little disappointed that they didn't have the guts to have the girl actually die and Wally actually have to live with his failure, but it was cool the way Wally saved the day.
I have a hard time believing that Vandal Savage and the ice villains would be willing to go to all this trouble and expense just to help Count Vertigo take power in some small European country. There's got to be something more to it than that, but we didn't get the usual Xanatos tag hinting at how the events of the episode served the Light's true intent despite their apparent defeat.
I have a hard time believing that Vandal Savage and the ice villains would be willing to go to all this trouble and expense just to help Count Vertigo take power in some small European country. There's got to be something more to it than that, but we didn't get the usual Xanatos tag hinting at how the events of the episode served the Light's true intent despite their apparent defeat.
Every now and then the good guys just win? I was kinda expecting them to actually have the girl die too and totally bought it right along with Vertigo. But then again, this was Wally's birthday and while it would've been a really hard and painful lesson for him maybe he gets to catch a break and be the hero. After all, he'd already *lost* M'Gann.
I liked the episode; was kinda surprised to see Vandal himself involved, but maybe he did have some actual unfinished business with Barry and decided to get personal this time.
Also, the Light weren't entirely foiled - after all, though Vertigo's in Belle Reve, the heroes don't know (though may suspect now?) that Belle Reve has been infiltrated by the Light. So either way, Vertigo can do what they want. And hey, maybe they didn't having him under their thumb instead of "King" Vertigo works just as well, if differently. Either way, they win.
I liked the episode; was kinda surprised to see Vandal himself involved, but maybe he did have some actual unfinished business with Barry and decided to get personal this time.
Also, the Light weren't entirely foiled - after all, though Vertigo's in Belle Reve, the heroes don't know (though may suspect now?) that Belle Reve has been infiltrated by the Light. So either way, Vertigo can do what they want. And hey, maybe they didn't having him under their thumb instead of "King" Vertigo works just as well, if differently. Either way, they win.
Yeah, but my point is that if there were nothing more behind this than Count Vertigo's coup, it's hard to believe that a massive high-tech meteorological assault on the entire North American continent was the only way to achieve that. It seems like the amount of effort and resources invested would've hugely outweighed the potential gain. It's a ridiculously overcomplicated, Rube Goldberg kind of plan for the particular thing they were trying to achieve. "Hmm, how do we stop the young Queen from getting her heart transplant? We already have thugs at the hospital who could just take the heart from the people who'd fly it over here. No? You think that's not enough? Okay, then let's invest billions of dollars in building five huge, heavily-armed weather-control devices, use them to launch an undeclared war on the entire US and Canada, and thereby shut down all transportation so the heart can't be delivered the normal way while also keeping all the superheroes occupied so they can't deliver it, although they'll probably send one speedster to do it so we need to talk one of the most influential supervillains on Earth into playing henchman and distracting the speedster. And if that doesn't work, we still have the thugs at the hospital who could've done the job by themselves without all this other stuff." That's got to be the most insanely ridiculous overkill in the history of supervillain schemes, and that is saying a lot. Most of the stuff that the bad guys did, they didn't need to do at all. So why do it? How is Count Vertigo, of all people, so powerful or important that his petty power grab warrants a supervillain invasion of a whole continent? Without some hint that the Light had some greater goal behind this attack, the whole thing comes off as rather silly.
I'm still trying to get over "handle Vandal."
All good points, yeah. Of course, this does seem to be the Light's modus operandi in the last two episodes - massively overdone "distraction" (separating the world into adults and kids and the coordinated ice storm attack) in the interests of a much smaller goal (stealing the fragment of [presumably] Starro and... preventing the Queen's heart transplant). Of course, Klarion just likes to watch things go insane so maybe the two aren't that related.
I still wonder if maybe the "fallback victory" was that if Vertigo ended up in Belle Reve at least he's still in a position to be of use to the Light. And hey, if Batman and the rest of the League do start to suspect Hugo Strange because of the convenience of the five ice villains being locked up under his watch, that just leads them away from the Light directly again.
I dunno, I look forward to how this all plays out, because you're right - spectacularism aside there didn't seem to be much point to all this work for one small European country and a potent but not incredible villain.
"Disappeared"
Fuck disappeared!
I SAW A CORPSE!
batman said "Two green lanterns".
Who are they using in this continuity?
(If we're going to bide by flash #1, lets also remember that Wally was paid for his services, free medical care for life, and that he was studying to be an engineer.)
Fuck disappeared!
I SAW A CORPSE!
batman said "Two green lanterns".
Who are they using in this continuity?
(If we're going to bide by flash #1, lets also remember that Wally was paid for his services, free medical care for life, and that he was studying to be an engineer.)
Hal Jordan and John Stewart.
There was also a cameo by your screen name in a past episode
Although the only GL to have a speaking role on YJ to date is John, who was voiced by Kevin Michael Richardson (who also plays the other John, J'onn J'onzz).
Thank you.
So did Batman get it wrong, or is one of them not part of the League, or is one of these Green Lanterns an asshole the Bat doesn't trust?
So did Batman get it wrong, or is one of them not part of the League, or is one of these Green Lanterns an asshole the Bat doesn't trust?
FWIW, the Young Justice wiki article on Green Lanterns is here: http://youngjustice.wikia.com/wiki/Green_Lantern.
ETA: So, according to http://youngjustice.wikia.com/wiki/Green_Lantern_Corps, Guy is a GL in the Earth-16 universe, but he isn't a member of the JL.
ETA: So, according to http://youngjustice.wikia.com/wiki/Green_Lantern_Corps, Guy is a GL in the Earth-16 universe, but he isn't a member of the JL.
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http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/news.php/news.php?action=fullnews&id=1279
TV Guide reports that Maggie Q will be voicing Wonder Woman:
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Exclusive-Maggie-Joins-1044759.aspx
The episode is "Agenda"
Weisman noted on his blog that the legal blockade of Wonder Woman appearances in non-starring roles ended by the end of his/their work on scripting the season.
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/news.php/news.php?action=fullnews&id=1279
TV Guide reports that Maggie Q will be voicing Wonder Woman:
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Exclusive-Maggie-Joins-1044759.aspx
The episode is "Agenda"
Weisman noted on his blog that the legal blockade of Wonder Woman appearances in non-starring roles ended by the end of his/their work on scripting the season.
Well, it must've ended a while ago, since Wonder Woman guest-starred twice in Batman: The Brave and the Bold's final season.
it could be part of a larger plot?
Why else mention the 5 ice villains from the pilot?
Why did they need 'heroes' to take out those ice fortresses?
I didn't see forcefields.
Robin was just using grenades.
Conventional missiles would have done the job just as well in a fraction of the time.
Why else mention the 5 ice villains from the pilot?
Why did they need 'heroes' to take out those ice fortresses?
I didn't see forcefields.
Robin was just using grenades.
Conventional missiles would have done the job just as well in a fraction of the time.
