It's genuinely like he has watched the show.
Spoilers Yeah... I give up - Star Trek has abandoned philosophical naturalism - it's depressing/juvenile
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He seems to have never watched star trek at all.
Be fair. Probably TNG.
I wonder if the writers cross reference each other? Planned what they have done *together* in advance? It's almost like they've started on a theme with no clear integrity of following through. Like it just all got too hard for them so they opted for some shock and awe and overplayed that.
I've always held to the idea that DS9 is *bad* Star Trek but the better show of the franchise. They are all out in the frontier being tested, being imperfect and all that stuff. That's Trek. Imperfect people trying to carry utopia out into the galaxy but finding their core principles being tested.
I'm not sure Discovery fits into my category of *bad* Star Trek. It seems to be a composite of alot of Trek that went on before -- its most distant cousin being TNG. Burnham clearly espouses and takes seriously the views and principles of the Federation and she's challenged on those principles several times and in prominent ways. The whole spore business (and that giant space squid) sorely tests Burnham's moral principles. The Mightycondrool network is a great and new vehicle for exploration and wonder. Burnham is an explorer through and through but an explorer thrust into the maelstrom of conflict and crisis. This is Trek under fire, folks.
I don't like stupid stuff like Sarek and Burnham floatin' in space. Most of the characters are too miserable and the uniforms are bleak and dull which I think hurts the show much more than it should. That said I think the writing is creative, there's some stunning twists and there's an energy to this series that keeps me coming back. And there's some traditional Trek in the mix here.
I'm not sure Discovery fits into my category of *bad* Star Trek. It seems to be a composite of alot of Trek that went on before -- its most distant cousin being TNG. Burnham clearly espouses and takes seriously the views and principles of the Federation and she's challenged on those principles several times and in prominent ways. The whole spore business (and that giant space squid) sorely tests Burnham's moral principles. The Mightycondrool network is a great and new vehicle for exploration and wonder. Burnham is an explorer through and through but an explorer thrust into the maelstrom of conflict and crisis. This is Trek under fire, folks.
I don't like stupid stuff like Sarek and Burnham floatin' in space. Most of the characters are too miserable and the uniforms are bleak and dull which I think hurts the show much more than it should. That said I think the writing is creative, there's some stunning twists and there's an energy to this series that keeps me coming back. And there's some traditional Trek in the mix here.
Well, it's interesting that Q was mentioned as being a bookend for TNG and that took seven years to be "followed through." So, perhaps there are different ways DISCO is telling this story?
Be fair he doesn't like what Discovery is doing. Why do people want to say someone hasn't watched when they have? Is it because it is a way to discredit their reaction to the show?
No, it's because it is outside of their reaction and/or experience. Rarely have I seen individuals willing to take on another person's experience when it comes to a TV show, usually because it produces an emotional reaction that might not have been experienced. It's the weird thing with art.
It's not a discredit so much as a "I don't get it."
Yeah for the last line
Just a funny little trend thing I've noticed. There's been two plot points I didn't either concentrate enough on or needed to work through after and that is even with watching. However I have watched much like others. Some bailed out earlier but even those have experienced Discovery as a product.Not liking or getting it is not the same as not being part of an audience.
(Just another part of message board social anthropology
It usually goes... 'You haven't watched'. Then oddly... 'If you don't like it then don't watch!' Make up your mind 
I just figure we're all adults here and our Star Trek viewing habits are our own).
Yes, but despite being Star Trek fans, generally there are not many mind readers(Just another part of message board social anthropology
Even TNG did what he is claiming no trek has done, it was as bad for it as DSC.
I actually read an interesting article about a "science adviser" on TNG. The technobable and "made up science" was so bad that he eventually wanted to quit science fiction all together, and worked on shows like CSI. He got back in to science fiction with "The Expanse."
Of course not! Evolution means we eventually become salamanders. Haven't you been paying attention?
I shouldn't read things like that when I'm drinking milk
I have really had people tell me that.
I think we had this discussion before about Star Wars. Yes, there is a wide variety of opinions but some make less sense than others.
We may have, if so I do not recall it. Many folks do not know what space opera is.
No, more that people go really nuts, like the petition to get Episode 8 removed from canon.
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