The use of "gay" as a general derogatory is juvenile. You can use whatever words you want, but don't be surprised at the kind of response you will get.
yar's epitaph speech, ridiculous in so many levels
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The use of "gay" as a general derogatory is juvenile. You can use whatever words you want, but don't be surprised at the kind of response you will get.
I don't think gay is the word I would have selected as my one word response for this part of the episode. I could go with goofy or corny maybe. I thought it was pretty good. I think the Picard-Data ending and Data standing on the hill reminded me of TOS on some level. It had that GR touch of classic Trek.
"Gay" is not an insult. The offense is simply in broadcasting one's own intolerance and limited perspective to the internet at large. As an insult, perhaps it is no longer generally accepted. After all, it marginalizes people, and who has the right, really, to do that.
Really, insult is always in the ear of the insulted, and thus the insulted party holds sovereign judgement over the issue.
It's just that basic politeness works differently over the internet. In the real world, it goes something like this:
A: "You are green."
B: "Please don't call me green, I find it insulting."
A: "I can call you green if I want. Don't be thin-skinned."
B: (kicks A in the groin, then twice in the head for a good measure)
C: "Wow, B, you are so polite! I would have used an axe!"
Over the net, the kicking part is so much more difficult, thus eliminating one of the most important expressions of good manners.
Timo Saloniemi
It's just that basic politeness works differently over the internet. In the real world, it goes something like this:
A: "You are green."
B: "Please don't call me green, I find it insulting."
A: "I can call you green if I want. Don't be thin-skinned."
B: (kicks A in the groin, then twice in the head for a good measure)
C: "Wow, B, you are so polite! I would have used an axe!"
Over the net, the kicking part is so much more difficult, thus eliminating one of the most important expressions of good manners.
Timo Saloniemi
number6
Vice Admiral
QFFT!!!
I think QFT is quoted for truth...and can only assume that QFFT is quoted for f*cking truth or something to that effect.
But I could be wrong....not all that up on abbreviations.
I felt the same way after watching it for the first time. The memorial added a depth to her character and also helped make a subpar episode a little bit better. Sure, the speech has its flaws, but it still gets the job done, IMHO.
Even if you didn't like it I didn't find it lively or merry. But, seriously, that statement offends me and I hate seeing ignorant comments like this on a ST forum.
Excellent advice! Thanks for the suggestion.
Kindly get back on the actual topic everyone.
If you guys want to have an argument about the different current usages, cultural meanings and personal impact of using the word "gay", I'd suggest TNG isn't the best forum for that discussion and you should take it somewhere else.
If you guys want to have an argument about the different current usages, cultural meanings and personal impact of using the word "gay", I'd suggest TNG isn't the best forum for that discussion and you should take it somewhere else.
Stop being eager to take offense
What always strikes me about that episode is the general feeling that the character was let go just as she was developing. I recently watched all of S1 and it's just not true that Tasha Yar was developed that much less than the other bridge crew. There was a greater focus on Picard, Data, and Wesley, but Tasha had about as much to do as Worf, Geordi, or Troi.
That, and the general cheeziness of the oil slick monster. It seems very TOS, where you can see the monster having captured Uhura or McCoy, and even Tasha's death was like that of a red shirt. I wonder if "Skin of Evil" was a rewritten TOS episode, does anyone know?
That, and the general cheeziness of the oil slick monster. It seems very TOS, where you can see the monster having captured Uhura or McCoy, and even Tasha's death was like that of a red shirt. I wonder if "Skin of Evil" was a rewritten TOS episode, does anyone know?
Not really. But the deleted scene afterwards, in which Geordi is "comforting" Data - that scene was totally gay.
ScatmanRescueMe
Lieutenant Commander
Denise Crosby could make any speech awful.
That said, it was just a little corny she'd address just the folks who are 'before the credits' people. Why not throw in one unknown person into the service to show that she was close to at least one other person from the compliment of 1000.
That said, it was just a little corny she'd address just the folks who are 'before the credits' people. Why not throw in one unknown person into the service to show that she was close to at least one other person from the compliment of 1000.
Because it's Star Trek and anyone who doesn't get a speaking part on the Bridge is canonfodder
I agree though, it would've been a nice touch and one they somewhat remedied later on by showing light on Crusher's friendship with that nurse, as well as some spotlight time for the O'BriensOne word,
Wesley.
btw, my main issue with it is not such technicalities but the basic I mentioned: That a very young person is going through a process of making epitaph speeches; and what a person at that: a regular security officer with that character.
Again, I don't understand. There were a lot of scenes in season one where she was "guiding" Wesley. He would ask her a lot of questions about morality and so on.
Also if the technology allowed, a holodeck epitaph might be the equivalent of a letter home but more elaborate. SOmeone also mentioned that on DS9 other crewman were observed making similar "goodbye" speeches.
RAMA
