Yeah, match speed is a critical function, at least if one prefers not to ram into enemy ships all the time. 
X-Wing and TIE Fighter to be rereleased w/ modern PC compatabiltiy
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And from what I remember from what they've said around when TPM came out, the ships in that weren't even cutting-edge to begin with, and in fact probably were ready to retire them. Given that perspective, in the time-frame of the OT, they were old clunker jalopies trying to keep up with the more modern X-Wing.
You know I never really bought into the idea that there could be any massive technological advancement going on in such a relatively short space of time. I mean the Republic is over 25,000 years old, exactly how much could starship technology really advance between the Clone Wars and the Rebellion? Surely they more or less plateaued millennia ago, technologically speaking.
To my way of thinking the only real difference is in craftsmanship rather than the underlying technology. On the one end of the spectrum you have the N1s that are sleek, elegant and very powerful. The kind of thing made by artisans and as such, they requre a lot of upkeep. While at the other end you have the TIE fighters that are pooped out on mass from some droid run foundry world. Cheep, easy to maintain, just good enough to get the job done.
As for the Y-Wings, I'd say it's not so much that they're especially primitive, so much as they're getting on a bit by the time the Rebel Alliance got their hands on them. Second hand, already been through one war, not many places one can get replacement parts and a bit of a bugger to maintain. Not exactly clunkers, but they've seen better days.
To my way of thinking the only real difference is in craftsmanship rather than the underlying technology. On the one end of the spectrum you have the N1s that are sleek, elegant and very powerful. The kind of thing made by artisans and as such, they requre a lot of upkeep. While at the other end you have the TIE fighters that are pooped out on mass from some droid run foundry world. Cheep, easy to maintain, just good enough to get the job done.
As for the Y-Wings, I'd say it's not so much that they're especially primitive, so much as they're getting on a bit by the time the Rebel Alliance got their hands on them. Second hand, already been through one war, not many places one can get replacement parts and a bit of a bugger to maintain. Not exactly clunkers, but they've seen better days.
You want a real life answer or an in universe one?
Real life would completely destroy any movie logic or setting. Look at our real life and the scientific progress that's been made in even the last 100 years on just one planet.
Having a galactic alliance with hundreds of races and thousands of planets should mean that over 25.000 years they should all be energy beings by then or all should be living as virtual personas in an AI controlled environment giving them practial immortality.
In universe it's simply disregarding real life accelerated developments. It's kinda how fighter jets become obsolete very fast with advanced nations or organisations and less advanced nations pick them up second hand. Better have inferior equipment than none at all.
So in the start of the rebellion that's all they got their hands on.. cheap, obsolete junk like the Y-Wing or the Z95. Only with the introduction of the X-Wing (which had to hand crafted in backyard garages at first) would put them on par with the Empire or give them the edge in direct ship to ship comparisons (not counting the fact that the Empire had vastly more ships and ressources).
However old ships are usually easier to maintain because the technology is outdated but well understood, there's got to be enough mechanics who know how to fix them and the only problem would be to get spare parts but then there's got to be enough junkyards around to try your luck (and many of them surely watched by Empire intelligence to get a lead to Rebel bases
)
Back to the games at hand.. damn that took me back too. I'm really tempted to dust of the joystick i have around somewhere and see if can still do it.
Seeing GoG's library it sure took me back to my teenage years and how much gaming i got in.. obviously beeing a teenager with few responsibilities like school and the occasional grocery shopping and helping to clean once a week gives you much time to enjoy games (and being a broke teenager also meant you were creative in obtaining these games for free).
I really have to get a closer look at this library because quite frankly modern games bore me more and more. The graphics got way better but i miss the heart in most games.. it's just hyper competitiveness, grinding for better gear or big ass explosions.
Lucasfilm adventures like Monkey Island or Indiana Jones, games like Dungeon Keeper or Baldur's Gate were just fun to play and enjoy. Sure modern games are mostly better designed and easier to use in most cases but i don't care.
Real life would completely destroy any movie logic or setting. Look at our real life and the scientific progress that's been made in even the last 100 years on just one planet.
Having a galactic alliance with hundreds of races and thousands of planets should mean that over 25.000 years they should all be energy beings by then or all should be living as virtual personas in an AI controlled environment giving them practial immortality.
In universe it's simply disregarding real life accelerated developments. It's kinda how fighter jets become obsolete very fast with advanced nations or organisations and less advanced nations pick them up second hand. Better have inferior equipment than none at all.
So in the start of the rebellion that's all they got their hands on.. cheap, obsolete junk like the Y-Wing or the Z95. Only with the introduction of the X-Wing (which had to hand crafted in backyard garages at first) would put them on par with the Empire or give them the edge in direct ship to ship comparisons (not counting the fact that the Empire had vastly more ships and ressources).
However old ships are usually easier to maintain because the technology is outdated but well understood, there's got to be enough mechanics who know how to fix them and the only problem would be to get spare parts but then there's got to be enough junkyards around to try your luck (and many of them surely watched by Empire intelligence to get a lead to Rebel bases
)Back to the games at hand.. damn that took me back too. I'm really tempted to dust of the joystick i have around somewhere and see if can still do it.
Seeing GoG's library it sure took me back to my teenage years and how much gaming i got in.. obviously beeing a teenager with few responsibilities like school and the occasional grocery shopping and helping to clean once a week gives you much time to enjoy games (and being a broke teenager also meant you were creative in obtaining these games for free
).I really have to get a closer look at this library because quite frankly modern games bore me more and more. The graphics got way better but i miss the heart in most games.. it's just hyper competitiveness, grinding for better gear or big ass explosions.
Lucasfilm adventures like Monkey Island or Indiana Jones, games like Dungeon Keeper or Baldur's Gate were just fun to play and enjoy. Sure modern games are mostly better designed and easier to use in most cases but i don't care.
The Z95 Headhunter was a splendidly feeble thing, but you didn't get to fly those IIRC.
In TIE Fighter there were missions where you'd fly an Assault Gunboat against X-Wings and there was no way to go one to one with them without TIE escorts, they were just too nimble. You'd survive, as long as you didn't try to fight.
True, a Z-95 mission was basically a turkey shoot.
As for gunboats... at least they're shielded and heavily armed! I do remember them being pretty awful for dogfighting, though. Taking out shuttles, transports, and capital ships, no problem.
The X-Wing and TIE Fighter games would make for a great multiplayer playground if they could make a modern one. I know the Battlefront games more or less did that with the space combat, but man, it would be great to just have a dedicated multiplayer Star Wars space combat game.
Choosing a side could be a career choice, with a persistent world changing around you depending on outcomes. Log out and log back in later and it could have drastically changed, with both sides vying for power and influence in the galaxy.
Choosing a side could be a career choice, with a persistent world changing around you depending on outcomes. Log out and log back in later and it could have drastically changed, with both sides vying for power and influence in the galaxy.
Sounds like what you want is the persistence of something like World War II Online (so basically the strategic end of Empire at War) but with the first-person space combat of the X-Wing series.
Hell, I'd play it!
Hell, I'd play it!
Yeah, exactly. I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet.
Just bought both games on GOG. This is the third or forth time I've bought these games, the original 3.5" disks, and a couple collectors discs laying around. X-Wing is still one of the hardest games I have ever played. TIE Fighter is still a classic.
They don't have the collector's CD release of X-Wing either. Bit of a shame, really as I've only ever played the Win95 versions and getting the DOS versions to work can be a bit of a pain.
I hope they will show up in the future.
Aw yeah.
http://www.gog.com/news/lucasfilm_on_gogcom_wave_ii_starts_now
Includes:
X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter
X-Wing Alliance
Galactic Battlegrounds Saga
Battlefront II
Dark Forces
Knights of the Old Republic II
http://www.gog.com/news/lucasfilm_on_gogcom_wave_ii_starts_now
Includes:
X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter
X-Wing Alliance
Galactic Battlegrounds Saga
Battlefront II
Dark Forces
Knights of the Old Republic II
Rogue Squadron 3D has historically been a bitch to get working on modern machines (and so has Rebellion). I'm interested to learn if GOG has written the mother of all Win9x wrappers to get it to run reliably.
Not related to X-Wing or Tie Fighter but gog released another Lucasarts classic. Grim Fandango! 
And they even fixed the stupid control scheme!
And they even fixed the stupid control scheme!
Steam not DRM Free but the latest Humble Bundle:
Pay what you want:
- Star Wars: Dark Forces
- Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
- Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic
Or for $12:
- Star Wars Battlefront II
- Star Wars Empire At War: Gold Pack
- Star Wars The Force Unleashed: Ultimate Sith Edition
- Star Wars The Force Unleashed II
- Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II
- Star Wars Republic Commando
...With more on the way...
Pay what you want:
- Star Wars: Dark Forces
- Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
- Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic
Or for $12:
- Star Wars Battlefront II
- Star Wars Empire At War: Gold Pack
- Star Wars The Force Unleashed: Ultimate Sith Edition
- Star Wars The Force Unleashed II
- Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II
- Star Wars Republic Commando
...With more on the way...