So what?
They can clean the theater while we're sitting there watching the movie we paid for or wait until people who've paid to leave there have left. Where is it written that as soon as the credits roll you have to vacate the theater?
X-Men Origins: Wolverine - Movie Discussion and Grading (SPOILERS)
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So what?
They can clean the theater while we're sitting there watching the movie we paid for or wait until people who've paid to leave there have left. Where is it written that as soon as the credits roll you have to vacate the theater?
MeanJoePhaser
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THE UNWRITTEN LAW!
Actually, you'd think after the first day, the ushers would know which movies had post credits bits and would just wait.
Saw it last Saturday before Star Trek (awesome geek movie weekend 
) and it got a C from me.. why?
It came dangerously close to X-Men 3 and that is one of the worst Marvel movies i know.
Wolverine suffers from being too short and being too onedimensional. It had too many holes in the "story" that ruin the whole movie on top of too many clichees and i usually don't mind when movies stray from comic canon when it's done well (Batman for example) but here it was bad.
The movie starts out good enough with him as a kid James Howlett and Victor as his brother.. ok, i can accept Victor being his brother. It doesn't take away or add something so i can accept the fact.
Then comes the first bad scene.. his "father" is killed and he does one of the most tiresome and bad clichees.. the "noooooooo" scream of rage/pain/misery into the sky while the camera zooms back. I"ve seen this a million times and it never was good because it almost always is way to exaggerated to come off as a natural reaction.
He then falls into his rage and kills his real father.. sorry to say it but the kid didn't really cut it to show the Wolverine rage and the weak twist of having killed his real father was that.. a weak twist.
The montage of him and Victor throughout the years was fine.. it established the bond that was to shatter when Victor "devolved" further into this maniac.
We get Stryker assembling the first mutant team and the first glimpse of Deadpool/Wade Wilson and he was cool as hell with a big mouth... exactly as he should be (if he only stayed this way
).
The movie plods along, Wolverine leaves the team etcblabla.. i don't really want to analyze every single scene but they had all something in common.. they all went by too fast without delving too deep.. the entire movie stayed too shallow and never went deeper than really necessary to move the plot along.
It suffered from the same problem that X3 had.. too many mutants in too many roles and each of them suffered for it. Gambit was forgettable.. no French accent and the actor was kind of meh (still think that having Lost"s Sawyer as Gambit would have been perfect), what they did to Deadpool was atrocious and i don't want to go into why Wolverine has no prior memories (yeah.. shooting someone in the head at the exact spot to erase his memories is so easy to do
).
Anway.. the movie was weak.. very weak and from what i hear the boxoffice returns reflect this as i expected when i read reviews of the movie.
Let's hope that the rumored Wolverine 2 really takes him to Madripoor and/or Japan and they include a coherent story instead of just set pieces and fanwank "we have to include this character at all costs".
I am really disappointed after i saw the trailers. Gladly Star Trek more than made up for Wolverines disappointment.
) and it got a C from me.. why?It came dangerously close to X-Men 3 and that is one of the worst Marvel movies i know.
Wolverine suffers from being too short and being too onedimensional. It had too many holes in the "story" that ruin the whole movie on top of too many clichees and i usually don't mind when movies stray from comic canon when it's done well (Batman for example) but here it was bad.
The movie starts out good enough with him as a kid James Howlett and Victor as his brother.. ok, i can accept Victor being his brother. It doesn't take away or add something so i can accept the fact.
Then comes the first bad scene.. his "father" is killed and he does one of the most tiresome and bad clichees.. the "noooooooo" scream of rage/pain/misery into the sky while the camera zooms back. I"ve seen this a million times and it never was good because it almost always is way to exaggerated to come off as a natural reaction.
He then falls into his rage and kills his real father.. sorry to say it but the kid didn't really cut it to show the Wolverine rage and the weak twist of having killed his real father was that.. a weak twist.
The montage of him and Victor throughout the years was fine.. it established the bond that was to shatter when Victor "devolved" further into this maniac.
We get Stryker assembling the first mutant team and the first glimpse of Deadpool/Wade Wilson and he was cool as hell with a big mouth... exactly as he should be (if he only stayed this way
).The movie plods along, Wolverine leaves the team etcblabla.. i don't really want to analyze every single scene but they had all something in common.. they all went by too fast without delving too deep.. the entire movie stayed too shallow and never went deeper than really necessary to move the plot along.
It suffered from the same problem that X3 had.. too many mutants in too many roles and each of them suffered for it. Gambit was forgettable.. no French accent and the actor was kind of meh (still think that having Lost"s Sawyer as Gambit would have been perfect), what they did to Deadpool was atrocious and i don't want to go into why Wolverine has no prior memories (yeah.. shooting someone in the head at the exact spot to erase his memories is so easy to do
).Anway.. the movie was weak.. very weak and from what i hear the boxoffice returns reflect this as i expected when i read reviews of the movie.
Let's hope that the rumored Wolverine 2 really takes him to Madripoor and/or Japan and they include a coherent story instead of just set pieces and fanwank "we have to include this character at all costs".
I am really disappointed after i saw the trailers. Gladly Star Trek more than made up for Wolverines disappointment.
Not to defend this shitty movie, but he wasn't shot in a particular spot or anything to erase his memories. The idea is that an adamantium bullet is needed to penetrate his skull, and then it will in effect have the same effect as a bullet on anyone else...it will blow his brains out. Then, his brain will regenerate, but it cannot regenerate memories.
It's kinda stupid...wouldn't he have to relearn how to walk, talk, etc? But the adamantium bullet is the least of my concerns about this shit movie.
It's kinda stupid...wouldn't he have to relearn how to walk, talk, etc? But the adamantium bullet is the least of my concerns about this shit movie.
I quite enjoyed the action but agree we've seen too much Wolverine.
I wrote this parody as a review http://www.purpleslinky.com/Humor/Satire/X-Men-Origins-Wolverine-First-Draft-Parody-Script.686097.
Wasn't hard quite a lot to pick at. I wonder what they'll do next in film series?
I wrote this parody as a review http://www.purpleslinky.com/Humor/Satire/X-Men-Origins-Wolverine-First-Draft-Parody-Script.686097.
Wasn't hard quite a lot to pick at. I wonder what they'll do next in film series?
Oh, losing memory but still retaining motor ability, etc. is an entirely real thing.
But the idea that you completely destroy the brain, and after it regenerates the only thing you'd lose is your memory is a little ridiculous...I mean, even ridiculous within the reality of a regenerating brain.
But the idea that you completely destroy the brain, and after it regenerates the only thing you'd lose is your memory is a little ridiculous...I mean, even ridiculous within the reality of a regenerating brain.
Oh, losing memory but still retaining motor ability, etc. is an entirely real thing.
But the idea that you completely destroy the brain, and after it regenerates the only thing you'd lose is your memory is a little ridiculous...I mean, even ridiculous within the reality of a regenerating brain.
I agree.
I'm not saying that it couldn't turn out that way, but the fact that Stryker just "knew" that Logan losing his memories would be the only result is just stupid.
MeanJoePhaser
Admiral
It didn't completely destroy Logan's brain. I got the impression the bullets impacted in his frontal lobe.
But the whole thing was handled idiotically. Logan's memory should've been wiped by order of Bail Organa (played by Jimmy Smits).
But the whole thing was handled idiotically. Logan's memory should've been wiped by order of Bail Organa (played by Jimmy Smits).
After 14 days Wolverine has sliced its way to $136.2m going into its 3rd weekend vs Angels&Demons.
With A&D getting more of the 30+ viewer Wolverine is still on largely competing with Star Trek. Trek likely will have a great hold and Wolverine will likey cross its production budget figure of $150m in this its 3rd weekend.
With A&D getting more of the 30+ viewer Wolverine is still on largely competing with Star Trek. Trek likely will have a great hold and Wolverine will likey cross its production budget figure of $150m in this its 3rd weekend.
I wonder if this will reach $200 million. The X-Men series was one of the few franchises where each progressive film made more than the last; I believe X-Men: The Last Stand left theaters with about $230 million domestically back in 2006 (X-Men made about $157 million and X2 earned a cool $214 million).
While I don't think Wolverine will even match that, forget passing it, but it'll be interesting to see where it ends up at domestically. I'm guessing somewhere between $175-200 million.
While I don't think Wolverine will even match that, forget passing it, but it'll be interesting to see where it ends up at domestically. I'm guessing somewhere between $175-200 million.
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At this point the prevailing opinion is that yes those are the basement and ceiling numbers for X-O:Wolverine. Most likely landing somewhere smack in the middle.
After its 3rd weekend and in 17 days of release Wolverine has brought in another(estimated) $14.8m to bring its total to $151m for its run thus far.
Its farily easy to say it'll bring in $6-8m in the M-Th dailies putting it very near $160m and with a 4-day Memorial Weekend boost it'll be firmly at the basement figure of $175m after its 4th weekend. Question is how will its legs be after that? How close to $200m can it get?
All in all FOX can claim modest success and blame the piracy leak for several 10s of millions in losses. With the sequel already green lighted its really kinda moot I suppose.
I often wonder if I'm the only person who doesn't like Hugh Jackman.
You're the one in 1000 who's immune to his variety of charm and machismo.
I will say he was a really good Oscar host. That did surprise me.
I don't think he's awful as Wolverine. I'm just not terribly impressed a lot of the time.
Just my opinion.
I don't think he's awful as Wolverine. I'm just not terribly impressed a lot of the time.
Just my opinion.
Really? I mean...really? You didn't actually type that, did you?
Well the character Dr. Cox on Scrubs doesn't like Hugh Jackman.
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