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X-MEN: FIRST CLASS (Casting, Rumors, Pics till release)

First Class seems to be the first in a planned trilogy and if so then they should have stated that in the beginning and confirmed it so that there wouldn't be any confusion among the fandom.

Why assume they even knew it in the beginning? It's not like these ideas spring forth fully formed. They develop over time. Maybe the studio originally committed to only one film, but as they discussed things with Singer and Vaughn and developed the possibilities, they decided to do it as a trilogy. Or maybe they were open to doing it as a trilogy but didn't want to come out and publicly commit to it until they were sure they'd like what they were getting from the filmmakers. There's a very good reason why studios, publishers, etc. don't announce their full plans the moment they come up with them: because those plans can always change and it would be a bad idea to publicly declare something that might later be rendered untrue.
 
I like the concept, but I hate the title. Makes it seem like it's about wealthy X-Men traveling on an airplane. Maybe if was The First Class, I would like it better.
 
I like the concept, but I hate the title. Makes it seem like it's about wealthy X-Men traveling on an airplane. Maybe if was The First Class, I would like it better.

Fly the unsegregated skies with the X-men. Your pilot for this voyage is Ororo Munroe

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Yeah I like the concept but hate the title as well because it makes me think of the comic book. If this is a trilogy then perhaps we'll see the formation of the team and their first mission together. Christopher is correct though...I'm assuming things which i shouldn't.
 
I like the concept, but I hate the title. Makes it seem like it's about wealthy X-Men traveling on an airplane. Maybe if was The First Class, I would like it better.

But "first class" is a well-established English phrase which has many meanings beyond a level of aircraft accommodations (i.e. the best, something of superlative quality, etc.), so it makes sense to use it in that form in the title. Like calling a film Die Hard instead of Not Die Easily. The familiar expression makes a more effective title than something that's slightly off from it.

Besides, lots of story titles and subtitles (and lots of English expressions) begin with "first" with no article. First Contact, First Blood, First Knight, First Strike, First Flight, First Light, First Monday in October, First Family, and so on.
 
In this case though Christopher "First Class" comes from the comic book which details a retelling of the origin of the X-Men and I'm not talking about the relationship between Xavier and Lensherr, I'm talking about the actual X-Men.The original draft of this movie was an adaption from this comic book so I think fans have a right to be concerned over the title. Is it a moot point now? Yes but that doesn't mean we can't debate about it. The small amount of info we have about this films seems like it has anything to do with the original concept of the film which was going to be an adaption of the book.
 
Yes, I know it's the title of a comic. All the more reason why adding "The" to it would make no sense. Whether it tells the same story or not, it's a matter of brands and trademarks. X-Men: First Class is a recognizable name that already exists as a trademark, so where's the logic in giving a movie a name that's almost the same but has "The" stuck into it?

And it's not unprecedented for a movie to use a title that was originally used for something very different from the story it tells. Blade Runner was loosely based on a Philip K. Dick novel but took its title from a book/treatment by William S. Burroughs that had absolutely nothing to do with the story of the film Blade Runner. For that matter, the term "blade runner" doesn't even meaningfully describe anything in the movie. (Deckard uses a gun, not a blade, and he's the pursuer rather than the pursued, so why the hell would he be called a blade runner?) But the producers liked that title so they bought the rights to it and used it for something totally unconnected to it. For a less extreme example, there's I, Robot, which uses the general concepts, background, and certain characters from the Isaac Asimov anthology by that name (or which was given that name by the publisher over Asimov's protests) but doesn't adapt any specific story within it. And then there are remakes that change the original story drastically yet still keep the name, like the recent Bionic Woman TV series (sorry, couldn't think of a film example off the top of my head). It's about branding and name recognition. Sometimes the reasons for using a title have diddly and/or squat to do with the actual content of the story.
 
I didn't need an explanation of why they chose the subtitle and things have already changed to the point where it seems to have become an entirely different movie to what they originally intended, again something I understand. My point was that I don't really think the subtitle fits what little we know of the film. Whatever though. I shall wait for the first trailer and as I've said before hold out continued hope that this will be a good film. The creative talent behind it would certainly indicate that it will be.
 
And I didn't need an explanation that it was the title of a comic. So we're even. This is a discussion board, so we discuss ideas and share information as it seems to become relevant. There are others reading this thread besides you and me, and they might be interested in this information.

As for the subtitle, I remain convinced that it's meant as a brand for the trilogy, and that it will be seen as appropriate when applied to the trilogy as a whole. That trilogy will be the story of the origins of the Xavier School for Gifted Youngsters and the X-Men, and it's natural enough to begin that story with the origins of the Xavier-Magneto conflict.
 
Well, as a non-reader of the comics, I was unaware that "First Class" was the title of a series. However, I still think my point is valid, only because "first class" has a variety of different meanings. Is this movie about the literal first class of X-Men? Or is just about some first class X-Men who happen to be better (in some way) than the second class X-Men? "First class," as a phrase, is just a little too vague a title for me.
 
It's not been said if it will be a trilogy or not but it seems like it could very well be set up to be the first in a new X-Men trilogy yes.
 
However, I still think my point is valid, only because "first class" has a variety of different meanings. Is this movie about the literal first class of X-Men? Or is just about some first class X-Men who happen to be better (in some way) than the second class X-Men? "First class," as a phrase, is just a little too vague a title for me.

But having multiple layers of meaning is exactly what makes for a good title. Why should it be limited to only one interpretation? The more meanings it suggests, the better it works. Yes, it is literally the first, earliest class of X-Men, and it is also symbolically saying they're first-class, top-notch heroes. (That doesn't have to be defined in opposition to some other group that's judged inferior; it's just generally about saying these guys are worthwhile. Like the name "Optimus Prime." Do you assume that, because he has "Prime" in his name, he must be constantly defining himself by his superiority to others?) That's not "vague," it's multilayered, like many of the best titles.
 
The title needs work, yes. But I think it's just to clarify that this is a prequel of sorts.
Nothing more, nothing less. Not that their rich ballers living life in the fast lane. Not that it's about THE actual first class of the Xavier school for the gifted (which would make sense, but evidently not totally the case, especially if JacksonArcher's correct about the no Scott and Jean thing, although still remains to be seen )

I'd actually rather just have them call it X-Men: Origins, since it is pretty straight forward, but they already squandered that on the Wolverine movie and supposed Magneto movie, which is now being consolidated into this movie.
 
At least X-Men:Origins would follow a now established prequel vibe set by Wolverine.

I read comics but X-Men is something I gave up following regularly 15yrs ago. I spot read the various mini or crossover but avoid trying to follow the 6-7 titles every month.

Even I know what X-Men:First Class should be about and just reading the casting of characters for this movie makes me go :rolleyes: .

The synopsis reads like a merging of two scripts. One for an X-Men:First Class the other for New Mutants put into a blender.
 
^ Toss in X-Men Origins: Magneto as well and combine those three (I don't think Zak Penn wrote that New Mutants script he was just approached) with Bryan Singer's treatment and you got this movie. I hope this isn't filmed in 3D.
 
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