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X-Men: Days of Future Past - Discussion Thread - SPOILERS

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Anyway, I'm just glad that Kelsey Grammer returned, albeit for a cameo. Originally, the producers had a much larger part for him in mind, but scheduling conflicts with Transformers meant Grammer had to decline

Was that really Grammer? In the half-second he was on screen, it looked like a bad Kelsey Grammer mask combined with some poorly impersonated ADR.

It sounded like him but I don't think he had the 'hero' makeup on - more like the quick cameo makeup job that it probably was.
 
I was really impressed with Quicksilver's fight scene (and it genuinely made me laugh, too, which I loved). It was the first time I've ever seen a speedster's power really shown properly, and why I've often felt that the Flash should be one of the most powerful heroes in the DC universe. I mean, if you can move anywhere close to the speed of light, just a light touch is gonna obliterate nearly anything you come into contact with...
 
Starting World War 3 would also kill innocent mutants as well as humans, does not seem practical to me.

The entire plot of X-Men First Class was about Shaw wanting to instigate a global nuclear war so that mutants can inherit the post-atomic wasteland where the radiation will increase their numbers. Magneto throws away dozens of mutants he considers "pawns" in the Alcatraz fight in X3. He tries to kill his BFF Mystique because she represents a threat to mutant-kind. He has no problem killing Xavier's mutants. Clearly he's not above killing or sacrificing many of his own kind for the "greater good" of exterminating humanity and making mutants the dominant life on Earth.

Which is a good point I made myself.

In the third world, it's probably going to happen.

But the same tests that can notice Downs and other abnormalities, by the tech level seen in the first movie can probably look for the mutant gene as well once "normal regular" Doctors know to look for it.

For just 20 dollars well before the point you can no longer abort the pregnancy, you can can know definitively if there's a freak in your oven.

(I saw something similar set in the future after the gay gene was discovered and up %90 of parents discovering that their child would grow up to be gay, chose abortion and starting over again until they finally made a straight one, rather than continuing with their gayby.)

There's this thing that happens. Urban myth really, but crack whores are paid to have their tubes tied because they are pathetic and have no right to bring another baby into the world just to dump it into the system a day later when they can finally go looking for crack again.

I can see charitable foundations (the government) actually paying people (mothers) money, a hundred dollars, maybe a thousand, to abort mutant births. And then I can see the ghetto crack whores getting uppity that those Beverly hills skinny princess bitches are getting paid ten times what they are to abort their mutant babies!

(Not too different a principle than scratchers.)

(If the argument can be made by the Catholic Church that mutants do not have souls, does that mean that they are fine with contraception and abortion if you can prove that all to most of your children are going to be mutants?)

But once the "Cure" was discovered in the third movie, all bets were off. They could no longer subtly out breed humanity, if all children were then inoculated at birth or before birth.

Magneto and Kennedy were friends?

The Space Program?

Same principle as a rail gun, Magneto could have sent explorers to the moon in 1962 if the government was in good standing with him.
 
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The only movie in the series that seems to have been completely erased is Origins

As far as we know, Logan's pre-Vietnam past is safe. Also, it's been pointed out that you can more or less fudge things so that the Vietnam/Team X stuff in Origins still fits. It's just that when we catch up with Logan in 1973 it's before that stuff. Yes, Stryker is the wrong age. But I'd call that a partial retcon rather than complete erasure of a film.

To be honest, I think Origins is probably the worst movie in the series, so it being removed from continuity isn't a huge loss, if you ask me.

Supposedly there is a little bit of it in Logan's flashback montage, and this is supported in the end credits. So it doesn't appear to have been totally removed.
 
So you're saying Magneto had to do something totally senseless and dumb in order to serve the needs of the plot? That's hardly a point in favor.

True. But it does permit the plot line to continue forward with Magneto still in jail and for the existing heretofore timeline to not be totally corrupted.

Magneto is still a mutant villain. If they make all of the mutants protagonists doesn't that make future stories more difficult to create in which tension not only exists between humans, but also amongst the mutants themselves.

It would be akin to rebooting Transformers and making all of them good guys - even Depecticon.

edited to add; but your point is well taken - which is IMO one of the inherent problems with time travel story arcs.
Magneto doesn't have to be a villain, there are plenty of other mutant villains from the comics they could use. Like Apocalypse, who are getting in the next movie.
Magneto has actually been a hero in the comics almost as much as a villain, so they could turn him good permanently and it wouldn't contradict the comics.
 
I'll preface this by saying I love the X-Men, and the stories they tell (as well as it being an allegory for whatever hot topic is going on in society at the moment).

The arguing back and forth about Magneto and mutants is funny to me because when you think about it, the concept of X-Men with their fantastic mutations doesn't make any sense. I wonder what a more realistic (but still obviously sci-fi) interpretation of X-Men would look like if it dealt with mutations in a more plausible way? For example, there are all these thousands and thousands of mutants that exist in the X-Men universe, but very few of them share a mutation that manifests in the exact same way (i.e., multiple "teleporters", but they use different techniques; multiple "flyers", different techniques... etc).

Kinda what I'm thinking is like the film Looper, where they talk about a small subset of humans suddenly manifesting the telekinetic mutation. Where multiple people all have the same mutation. Or the film Push (starring Chris Evans) where there are subsets of people with a certain gift (sure that movie could have been better but it is what it was).

I'd like to see a universe like that, rather than one where everyone has a unique mutation.
 
I'd like to see a universe like that, rather than one where everyone has a unique mutation.

Professor X and Jean Grey have very similar mutation (telepathy though Jean Grey also has telekinesis). Emma Frost also has telepathy though her diamond form is a latter edition in the comics. In the comic there are mutants whose mutations are very similar (for instance Polaris and Magneto).

That being said, except for twins no one looks the same so why shouldn't mutant powers work that way.
 
My biggest issue with the Sentinels is that apparently whomever designed them thinks that the nozzle of the Harrier is the entire engine, because it took up the entire torso of the Sentinels and left no room for an actual engine or fuel (plus where did they keep all the ammo for those 2,000 RPM miniguns?).

Perhaps they took a page from the Battletech handbooks? :D

We could just say it was magical Iron-Man type technology, but they specifically said it was based on the Harrier engine. Not that it's a big deal or affects the story, it's just an observation.

Was it actually said to be based on the Harrier engine, or did Trask only use the Harrier's STOL/VTOL capability as an analogy for how the Sentinels could fly? I seem to recall it being phrased as the latter, but my memory's not always reliable.
 
I have a possible solution to the X-Men Origins: Wolverine timeline conundrum.

Maybe Sabertooth killing his superior officer, Wolverine and Sabertooth getting shot by firing squad, coming back to life, getting recruited into Team X, and Wolverine leaving Team X all takes place within the first 6 months or so of 1973, and so for the remainder of the year Wolverine is living on his own in the U.S. when his future self arrives to change history in Days of Future Past. Then "6 years later" it is 1979 and the main events of Origins or some variant thereof occurs in both timelines.
Yeah but when Stryker meets Wolverine in DOFP it's like he's never seen him before. Ohterwise he be like "Hey, Logan"
Dang, that totals my theory. Oh well, I suppose it's not implausible that Wolverine and Sabertooth found their way to Vietnam later on in 1973.
For one built during WWII, they would most likely use asbestos fibers as a reinforcing agent, so sucks to be you, Magneto.
:lol::guffaw::rofl:
 
I just watched the "I don't want your future" scene again (from one of those filmed-on-a-cell-phone pirate copies I found a site.) I don't support those sites, I just wanted to see which clips are used in said montage.

It's mostly X1-3, and basically one frame from Origins: Wolverine of his claws getting stamped on, and one frame from The Wolverine of him burned down the hole by the atomic blast in 1945 (funny how that wasn't his "future" at all; it'd already happened :) )
 
This was an example of a respectful semi-reboot of a beloved franchise; wish JJ-Trek had paid a little more respect to the Prime-Universe and by extension thanked die-hard fans.

What totally not giving a shit about continuity becuase its all just useless sci-fi trivia only nerds care about when taking part in internet dick waving contests. :)

or did you miss the part where Singer was ignoring other X-men films without the time travel reconting.
 
I'll preface this by saying I love the X-Men, and the stories they tell (as well as it being an allegory for whatever hot topic is going on in society at the moment).

The arguing back and forth about Magneto and mutants is funny to me because when you think about it, the concept of X-Men with their fantastic mutations doesn't make any sense. I wonder what a more realistic (but still obviously sci-fi) interpretation of X-Men would look like if it dealt with mutations in a more plausible way? For example, there are all these thousands and thousands of mutants that exist in the X-Men universe, but very few of them share a mutation that manifests in the exact same way (i.e., multiple "teleporters", but they use different techniques; multiple "flyers", different techniques... etc).

Kinda what I'm thinking is like the film Looper, where they talk about a small subset of humans suddenly manifesting the telekinetic mutation. Where multiple people all have the same mutation. Or the film Push (starring Chris Evans) where there are subsets of people with a certain gift (sure that movie could have been better but it is what it was).

I'd like to see a universe like that, rather than one where everyone has a unique mutation.

No doubt there are mutants that share the way a mutation develops. However in a visual media do we want to see that portrayed? We are also seeing what a dozen or so mutants in the films out of perhaps millions of mutants areound ther world.
 
That's the thing with X-Men mutants, there should be millions of them all over the world but they keep coming up with contrived reasons in the comics to keep there being only hundreds of them (like Decimation) because the writers probably realized having millions of mutants would screw up the non X-Men books too much and would render the Mutant/Human conflict moot.

Because really, if there are millions of them and more mutants always being born...their rise to power is near-inevitable. They just need to wait about 100 years or so and there'll be as many of them as baseline humans.
 
even if' its only 1 million mutants out of 6bn, that would be something like 0.017% of the total population
 
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