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X-Files: the latter seasons...

Warped9

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I'm almost through my X-Files marathon rewatch at about two-thirds through Season 9.

Largely it's been a fun ride and only the second time I've watched the series all the way through. Before my two rewatches (about two years apart) I'd really only seen the show sporadically when it was in production.

I certainly count myself a fan and I think most like-minded folks would likely agree that Seasons 1-6 are essentially solid. In each season there are perhaps a couple or a few episodes that are just okay, but not really anything bad. I find Season 7 decent enough and even Season 8 isn't a total write-off.

Season 9, though, leaves something to be desired. And I've been thinking about why the latter two seasons---particularly the last---come off so disappointingly, particularly since many of the stories really weren't a divergence from what had been done before.

In terms of characters the presence of Mulder is sorely missed. Mulder had developed a quiet presence as well as a measure of levity that goes missing with his departure. It isn't that I dislike John Doggett, but he usually has such an air of earnestness about him. His interactions with Scully were decent enough, but his teaming with Reyes feels flat as I don't see anything of the same chemistry that Mulder and Scully enjoyed. Conceptually Reyes should have been Doggett's foil, but she doesn't come across strongly enough. The series tried, but it just didn't really click.

The measure of levity is also missing from the stories. Although there was definitely edginess and horror in many X-Files stories there could also be a lurking sense of dark humour. And they could flip it around by occasionally doing humourous stories with a dark edginess to them. It was a winning formula with good writing, direction and cast up to the task.

Later on the show lost its humour. The overall atmosphere of the stories could feel oppressive. It also lost a lot of its pacing where many of the latter episodes felt like they dragged. In the end much of it felt pointless. I am watching the last season for a sense of completion, but candidly you could pretty much skip the bulk of Season 9 and jump right to the two-part season/series conclusion.

It's been awhile since I've seen the first film, The X-Files: Fight The Future (actually I've only seen it once when it was released), but I do recall it feeling like much of the series at the time. The only other major thing I recall that while decent enough it also felt somewhat pointless and that much of its content could have been done in the series. The second film, The X-Files: I Want To Believe, reminds me of Season 9---largely pointless and an air of oppressiveness about it. I get they wanted to do a monster-of-the-week type story (actually my favourites of the series), but it largely fell flat. It isn't horrible, but it isn't a winner either.

While the latter seasons can be disappointing I still think that overall this a great series with the great bulk of it being solid.
 
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I agree with nearly all you wrote, Warped9. The last two seasons had a handful of good stand alone episodes (that would have been more successful had Mulder been involved) but they were pretty dreary for the most part.

Mulder and Scully were lightning in a bottle and the Doggett/Reyes team never seemed to mesh. I think the writers and the actors worked their asses off trying to replicate the original partners' dynamic, but the chemistry was just never there. It didn't help matters that the Super Soldier conspiracy wasn't captivating enough to really engage the fans' imagination so all of the mythology episodes in those two seasons felt aimless.

At the time it aired, I was just happy to have the X-Files renewed each year -- despite the dire quality of the seasons themselves -- but by the time the episode "John Doe" came on in season nine, I was ready for the show to wrap things up. On paper, "John Doe" should be a great episode. Written by Vince Gilligan (creator of the superb Breaking Bad) and directed by Michelle MacLaren (who is, for my money, the BEST director working in television today), I so wanted to like this episode but I found myself disappointed by the whole plot and annoyed with the washed out light filter they used to depict Mexico. I place this episode up there with "3" and "the Jersey Devil" as one of the very worst episodes of the X-Files ever. This episode became my tipping point and the cancellation announcement that came later that year was now welcome news.

I do disagree with you about X-Files: I Want to Believe. I very much enjoy that movie and don't find it that oppressive in atmosphere. My feeling is that the first X-Files movie was very much Mulder-centric (the heavy mythology aspects, his quest for the truth) and the second film balanced it out by being very Scully-centric (her life outside of the FBI, her faith in a higher power). I also take that scene after the credits to be their "happily ever after" moment and a small bit of closure for the fans.

Would I like to see a third movie to at least wrap up the alien invasion mythology? Hell, yes, I would! Will we ever get that movie? Doesn't look good, but there's always hope, however slim. At least we're left with 200 episodes (most of them great hours of television) and two decent films. All in all, a pretty nice slab of entertainment to enjoy again and again.

I look forward to watching them all again.

On Blu-Ray.

(Fingers crossed)
 
Yep, I'd like to see the series on Blu-Ray and with all the extras put back (I have the slimmer box sets) and if they included the two films it would be a bonus.

As for a third film or perhaps even a short miniseries it all depends on story. If it's good then I'm there.

And I don't think you have to have total closure except for the aliens storyline. Duchovny himself has said he likes the idea that Mulder and Scully are still out there doing their thing even offscreen between episodes and films.
 
I gave the Doggett/Reyes episodes a shot at the time, but to be honest once Mulder left I just didn't see the point in watching anymore. The unique dynamic between him and Scully was what really made the show work (it didn't matter to me whether they actually got together or not), and his ability to poke fun at the situations they found themselves in did a great job balancing out some of the darker and heavier elements of the show.

After he was gone, all that was left was the increasingly muddled and convoluted alien conspiracy storyline, and a lot of overly solemn and poetic voiceovers from Scully. The magic spark that Mulder provided just wasn't there anymore.
 
Season 8 is actually one of my favorites because of the impact that Mulder's disappearance had on Scully and Skinner. It was a great season that made for some awesome emotional moments.

Season 9, however...meh. By then, Mulder is still gone, and the drama of his absence has subsided.
 
I would think that it's pretty much universally accepted that the last couple of years weren't up to the standard of what had come before them. Didn't really bother me too much though as you can say that about a good number of different shows.

What I would say about the final two seasons though, they're head and shoulders above the woeful second movie.
 
Season 9.... oy vey. The worst episodes are when Scully is paired with Doggett, but before Reyes joins the team. They just kept rehashing the same old thing with him not believing over and over and over. Overall, it's still one of the best shows of all time. I'm glad Carter ended it when he did instead of letting it run for another several years.
 
Season 9.... oy vey. The worst episodes are when Scully is paired with Doggett, but before Reyes joins the team. They just kept rehashing the same old thing with him not believing over and over and over. Overall, it's still one of the best shows of all time. I'm glad Carter ended it when he did instead of letting it run for another several years.

Yeah, his "I ain't buying this" position was tedious as time went on. Making Scully "the believer" in the pair didn't really work either. At least when Scully was the primary sceptic, she would offer alternative, plausible and scientifically(ish) explanations for the phenomena she and Mulder encountered. Doggett would just shake his head and frown a lot at the "crazy" theories that Scully, and then Reyes, were suggesting.

Mulder was a giant nerd yet still cool; someone the nerds (like me) in the audience could identify with and root for. Doggett was more narrow-minded and macho; a more prototypical hero for a procedural show and thereby not a great fit for an atypical show like X-Files.

Maybe if the Lone Gunmen were around more in seasons 8-9 it would have balanced out the show, given it more of a sadly lacking nerd quotient, but unfortunately they were off on their own short-lived series and appeared only once (alive) in the last season to tie up (permanately) their characters' fates.
 
Actually, making Scully "the believer" was one of my favorite aspects of the later seasons. One of my favorite moments of the entire series is when Mulder brain goes crazy and he is dying due to his contact with the alien artifact.

Scully and Skinner have a conversation about it, which basically goes...

Scully: "And what's happening to him might be extraterrestrial in origin."
Skinner: "I know."

In that moment, both of them finally come to accept without doubt that Mulder has been right all along. And it's tragic because it is seemingly coming at the end of his life.
 
I actually think season eight is my favorite year of the show, which surprised me, considering fan consensus about the show. Duchovny seemed bored in season seven, which struggled to do anything with the mythology and didn't have many memorable standalones, either.

Season nine is pretty mediocre, though. It has a few nice moments, but it's mostly pretty forgettable (which actually sums up my reaction to the final episode, too).
 
They made a mistake in the last two seasons trying to go on without Mulder.

They should have just done a spinoff with Doggett and Reyes. Wipe away all the messy mythology, and starting over would have been the best option and given the franchise a few more years of life.
 
Just watched the series finale. Padded and ultimately pointless. It had more energy than the season that preceded it, but it was ultimately pointless. There were tons of stuff left unsaid by the witnesses and unexplored by Skinner, but then what was the point since the game was so obviously rigged.

I did like the finale Mulder and Scully scene in the motel room, but surely something better than what we saw preceding it could have been done, and probably within the framework of one hour, too.

One of these days I'll do a marathon rewatch starting with Kolchak: The Night Stalker first and then The X-Files.
 
I agree with most folks in that seasons 1 -6 were really the best. After that it did have it's moments, but it just wasn't as good. I must be the only person here that thinks season 9 was better than season 8, although neither was that good. I actually thought Doggett and Reyes were starting to get a bit of chemistry going.

The show ran out of gas after season 6 anyway. How much can Scully see and still not believe irritated the heck out of me sometimes. Then the writers turned Scully into a believer and had Doggett take her role as the disbeliever. It was such an obvious ploy. If they would have just let Mulder and Scully fade away and just let Doggett and Reyes do their thing I would have probably kept watching. Maybe.
 
Last night on an urge I went back and rewatched the two original Kolchak made-for-TV films: The Night Stalker and The Night Strangler. If I were updating those stories there really isn't too much I would change. I like the physicality of the stunts making the action feel more real. There's good pacing and energy throughout both stories, both definitely ahead of most of The X-Files Season 9.

One thing you can't miss about those old shows: the acting was broader. The characters could be very expressive and impassioned which flies in the face of so much low-key acting today. Watching Carl Kolchak and Tony Vincenzo go at each other is a riot.

It was amusing to watch Kolchak not believing in vampires, but rather subscribing to the notion the killer simply thought he was a vampire. But then when Kolchak is finally convinced they're hunting for the real thing he jumps into it wholeheartedly because he can't ignore the facts. He was Scully and Mulder rolled into one. It would have been great if McGavin had been willing to reprise Carl Kolchak for an episode or two of The X-Files.
 
I actually like Season 8 a lot. I liked that the show became darker again. I felt that seasons 6 and 7 were becoming too light and humorous. I also liked the whole Mulder storyline.
 
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