Wrath of Khan's Big BooBoo

[Therin of Andor]

I have to admit, it would be funny if, just one time, in a Trek ep or movie, we hear a toilet flush, and then we see a crewmember walking out of the head (Naval term for bathroom), or the flush and then the Captain walking out of the head in his quarters/ready room.

Check out the seat Kirk is sitting on in the brig in ST V. The sign says, "Do not use while in Spacedock."

http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Toilet

 

[fireproof78]

I have to admit, it would be funny if, just one time, in a Trek ep or movie, we hear a toilet flush, and then we see a crewmember walking out of the head (Naval term for bathroom), or the flush and then the Captain walking out of the head in his quarters/ready room.

Check out the seat Kirk is sitting on in the brig in ST V. The sign says, "Do not use while in Spacedock."

http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Toilet

I always found that to be a funny production detail, and an odd one in universe. I'm guessing the brig of a starship is not expected to be utilized while in Spacedock, maybe?

Anyway, still fun

 

[nx1701g]

I have to admit, it would be funny if, just one time, in a Trek ep or movie, we hear a toilet flush, and then we see a crewmember walking out of the head (Naval term for bathroom), or the flush and then the Captain walking out of the head in his quarters/ready room.

Check out the seat Kirk is sitting on in the brig in ST V. The sign says, "Do not use while in Spacedock."

http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Toilet

I always found that to be a funny production detail, and an odd one in universe. I'm guessing the brig of a starship is not expected to be utilized while in Spacedock, maybe?

Anyway, still fun

I always thought that was a warning for all toilets aboard a starship. The waste has to go somewhere, maybe it's ejected with a flush...

 

[FormerLurker]

Probably more along the lines of the brig sanitation is offline while the ship is plugged into the spacedock mains, due to there being no reason to keep a prisoner on the ship while the spacedock brig is available.

 

[eyeresist]

Perhaps the docking clamps use the same power source as the brig toilet flush? It's an either/or situation...

 

[dub]

It spoils my enjoyment of the film by zero percent.

This.

 

[xvicente]

I always thought that was a warning for all toilets aboard a starship. The waste has to go somewhere, maybe it's ejected with a flush...

Some actual boats toilets work like that. Perhaps wealthy movie makers just copied what they saw in their yatchs.

Ayone know if Shatner/Nimoy/Bennet onwed yatchs in the late 80s?

 

[E-DUB]

Also, there was no visible RCS exhaust even when Kirk did the big "sneak up on Khan" maneuver.

 

[Timo]

Since when has 23rd century RCS (or anything else from that era for that matter) had an "exhaust"? We didn't even have a reason to think it would be rocket-based until STXI - for all we know, it was all gravitics and miniature impulse engines and other such magic, and those yellow things at the corners of the movie saucers weren't supposed to emit or eject anything at all.

OTOH, ST6 claims that Klingon ships have a tailpipe, yet we never see them emit anything, either. So whatever the exhaust is, it's totally invisible for high-power applications, and perhaps even more invisible for low-power ones...

Some actual boats toilets work like that. Perhaps wealthy movie makers just copied what they saw in their yatchs.

Ayone know if Shatner/Nimoy/Bennet onwed yatchs in the late 80s?

Do people in California travel by train? It's only recently that train toilets have stopped dumping their contents on the rails like that.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[eyeresist]

Some actual boats toilets work like that. Perhaps wealthy movie makers just copied what they saw in their yatchs.

Ayone know if Shatner/Nimoy/Bennet onwed yatchs in the late 80s?

Do people in California travel by train? It's only recently that train toilets have stopped dumping their contents on the rails like that.

Yes, it's a train thing. When I was a kid I once travelled on a train with old fashioned compartments, very classy until some yahoo smashed a window (this was on a school trip - I did not go to a great school). You were not supposed to flush those toilets at the station because they didn't want piles of human waste around the platforms!

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

It spoils my enjoyment of the film by zero percent.

This.

QFT.

If that line created a problem for anyone in the audience, then every sci-fi film spouting ultimately meaningless techno babble should have inspired decades of empty theater seats for just about every sci-fi film ever produced.

 

[xvicente]

Some of these booboos do spoil a bit of the enjoyment. Not long ago I watched an episode of ENT in wich someone said we have to explore "20 million cubic kilometres" of space like that was a lot of work.

Even without doing the actual math I knew that was a very very small volume of space for a starship as we know them. (then I did: it's a cube of 270km each side or a sphere 336km diameter)

Come on that's not hard.

 

[beamMe]

Also, there was no visible RCS exhaust even when Kirk did the big "sneak up on Khan" maneuver.

That's really not a such a big thing; the impulse drive produces no visible exhaust either, and this still somehow propels the starships forward.

 

[eyeresist]

Some of these booboos do spoil a bit of the enjoyment. Not long ago I watched an episode of ENT in wich someone said we have to explore "20 million cubic kilometres" of space like that was a lot of work.

Even without doing the actual math I knew that was a very very small volume of space for a starship as we know them. (then I did: it's a cube of 270km each side or a sphere 336km diameter)

Obviously they meant 20 million cubed.

 

[Mytran]

Who was speaking the line?

 

[xvicente]

^a vulcan dude named Tolaris, in the episode Fusion

http://www.chakoteya.net/Enterprise/17.htm

 

[Mytran]

Thanks. I see T'Pol also makes reference to another 20 million cubic KM earlier on. Maybe they are running very high resolution scans of the area, which takes longer?

 

[fireproof78]

Rendering times are a pain

 

[enterprisecvn65]

I always thought it was silly that Reliant was looking for Ceti Alpha VI but showed up at Ceti Alpha V none-the-wiser. I always thought this was dumb as with Star Trek type sensors, there should be no problem counting planets in the system and seeing you are at the fifth one from the sun and not the sixth. I always wondered if someone just got confused with their Roman numerals and meant to type "Ceti Alpha IV" rather than "VI." This would have solved the problem, if Ceti Alpha IV had blown up then Ceti Alpha V would be fourth planet from the sun when Reliant arrives and the whole thing is solved.

Oh well. I still enjoy the film.

--Alex

Aside from the failure to count correctly. I think if a whole planet exploded there would be an enormous debris field that would be pretty hard to miss.

A better way might have been Khan and his crew repair the Botanay Bay enough to get into space but it malfunctions shortly after and has to emergency land on Ceti Alpha VI. A wasteland of a planet.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

A better way might have been Khan and his crew repair the Botanay Bay enough to get into space but it malfunctions shortly after and has to emergency land on Ceti Alpha VI. A wasteland of a planet.

Yeah, but why would Khan want to try to leave the planet seeing as settling on a new planet like the one Kirk left him on was his original plan.