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Would you prefer if this new Star Trek show was on a different streaming site?

I understand IP (internet protocol) issues since I do network software development. My question might be better asked as who is blocking US Netflix outside the US? Either Netflix themselves or an ISP on the remote end, either contractually or by regulation (law). While I know technology, I don't know international law and commerce. Who forces Netflix or anyone else to inflict this damage upon themselves?

It's a legal thing.

Netflix buys licenses to stream specific shows to specific countries. Each regional Netflix has it's own set of books. So they can't all afford to be as robust as US Netflix, since they have a much smaller client bases to draw their subscriptions from.

Try (effortlessly) to sidestep their geoblocking with a VPN and you are a criminal who who could possibly have to go to jail for video piracy, even though you are paying a subscription to the wrong Netflix.

Research I did a few days ago said that 1.3 million Canadians are using VPNs to illegally buy US Netflix. Now although US Netflix is getting the money, Canadian Netflix is not. Canadian Netflix has to stand or float on it's own merits, and would be able to return a healthier profit and create a better product if those 1.3 million thieves relented, and accepted that they do not deserve superior US Netflix.

Regionally all the Netflix are in (friendly) competition with each other, that if they are not making enough money, a lot of staff will be fired and their library will be gutted, until a more favourable equilibrium is created.
 
Using a VPN to sidestep geolocked content is not currently a crime (at least not in Canada). It is conceivably a violation of the copyright act but has never been tested in court. It's a legal grey area - you could conceivably be charged for it but no one ever has and until someone is the courts haven't clarified if doing so falls under the copyright act or not.

It is a violation terms of service and you can be banned from Netflix for it. However, if Netflix did that they'd have banned a huge portion of their users.

The whole discussion is moot anyway, it hasn't worked since February. If you try it you get a message saying "you appear to be trying to access Netflix via a VPN, please turn it off and try again" or something like that.

Here's a good article on it from last year, before Netflix blocked VPN's.
http://m.fasken.com/jumping-the-geofence-examining-canadians-use-of-vpns-to-access-us-netflix/
 
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Research I did a few days ago said that 1.3 million Canadians are using VPNs to illegally buy US Netflix. Now although US Netflix is getting the money, Canadian Netflix is not. Canadian Netflix has to stand or float on it's own merits, and would be able to return a healthier profit and create a better product if those 1.3 million thieves relented, and accepted that they do not deserve superior US Netflix.

Regionally all the Netflix are in (friendly) competition with each other, that if they are not making enough money, a lot of staff will be fired and their library will be gutted, until a more favourable equilibrium is created.
Erm, that's not how it works.... :)

Netflix started streaming nearly 8 years ago in the US. All content licensed is for distribution in the US alone. It is the contracts with the content owners that prohibit Netflix from exporting this material beyond the borders of the United States. Exporting said content outside the country you entered into a legally binding contract with the owner is what makes it verboten for NF. I.E., against the law.

Canada was the next stop for the company, launching there in 2010. Each regional service is a separate division requiring separate licencing (meaning separate contracts and payments) for movies and shows. Even for the same movies and tv shows. A contract for say, all 6 Trek series on the US service does not mean they can be shown in Canada or the other regions launched afterwards.
The stumbling block doesn't end there. If a tv network, basic cable or pay tv channel in Canada/other country licenses content, then Netflix cannot acquire it for streaming there. Because the preexisting network/channel already contracted to be the one to offer it in that country. The Netflix subscriber in each country can only view the material that has been procured for that region, and we aren't entitled to access content that they've purchased in another.

Netflix allowed it's subscribers who travelled abroad, to access the local version of its service. This is where the VPN users discovered that they could view alternate catalogs from NF's various countries. It was a violation of NF terms of service, but they didn't bother enforcing their rules, allowing non travelers to graze the multiple libraries.

Unfortunately the VPN services brazenly promoted that one could circumvent geo restrictions (insanity...stop blabbing! The studio overlords will come after you!) to view Netflix and brought attention to it to the studios, who pressured the company to take action to prevent it. An action that they finally initiated earlier this year.
 
I'm a little late to the conversation, but to answer the OP's question, I'd prefer if the show was on the bloody TV where it belongs. :scream:
 
Can one use a VPN and their Netflix account to watch the show from the US or do they need a non-US Netflix account and a VPN?
 
US and Canada are th wonky countries it isn't on Netflix. It's on Netflix everywhere else. If you're not in one of those countries you're already getting it on Netflix.


Netflix blocked VPN's earlier this year. If you try watching something with yours turned on, as I frequently do forgetting my vpn is running, you get at error message.


Can one use a VPN and their Netflix account to watch the show from the US or do they need a non-US Netflix account and a VPN?
 
I'm highly skeptical that there is any demand sustainable demand for a CBS streaming service. Unless they go on a greenlight bender between now and January, I don't imagine that I'll keep the subscription active. Would have been happier to see it on HBO, Amazon, or Netflix-- all of which have solid Sci-fi/fantasy bona fides now.
 
I'm a little late to the conversation, but to answer the OP's question, I'd prefer if the show was on the bloody TV where it belongs. :scream:

Well I've just moved into a new house. No aeriel for OTA tv, no sky dish, just a fibre optic line into the hall, and cat5 to every room. Netflix, iplayer, amazon, whatever. I work in the entertainment industry, I know this stuff costs money to make, just let me pay for it, dont subject me to adverts, and let me watch it when I want.
 
Can one use a VPN and their Netflix account to watch the show from the US or do they need a non-US Netflix account and a VPN?
You'd have to build a fancy time worm hole to do that. One end of the wormhole would have to be in 2017 outside the US, and the other end would have to be on the Netflix server before early 2016.
 
Well I've just moved into a new house. No aeriel for OTA tv, no sky dish, just a fibre optic line into the hall, and cat5 to every room. Netflix, iplayer, amazon, whatever. I work in the entertainment industry, I know this stuff costs money to make, just let me pay for it, dont subject me to adverts, and let me watch it when I want.
Fair enough. Problem is, the base pay plan ($5.99 / month) DOES subject you to ads. You will be required to pay MORE to get it without ads, although I can't seem to find a price anywhere now. If I'm going to be forced to watch endless ads, which should in principle be paying for the show in the first place, why am I paying for it? Additionally, CAA has been notorious for having technical problems with its streaming technology. I really hope they have the kinks worked out before the legions of Trek fans arrive, or their servers are likely to crumble into molten slag on premiere night. Won't that be lovely? Amazon, Hulu, even Netflix seem to be better choices than Les Moonves' little pet turd, at least from a technical and financial POV. Which, at the end of the day, is all that really matters.
 
The new show being exclusive to CBSAA certainly seems reminiscent of UPN where Voyager was to not only generate viewers and profits as a series but to support a whole new network, even if doing so made it more niche; Trek probably *is* a niche good but making it so clearly one seems risky.
I would prefer if it was on Amazon, netflix or hulu, $6 a month isn't extortion, although it should be free if there are ads, but the site seems to have far too few other programs.
 
if it's $6 month, there are no ads during the episode, it also may mean that the story length is not a hard and fast 42 minutes plus credits.

50 or 60 minutes pure story.

Once the series eventually gets to Network, they're going to have to decide whether to turn every episode into a two parter or a tv movie.
 
...it should be free if there are ads...
Yup!
If... there are no ads during the episode...
That would be nice, but dream on...

Not a single positive comment about All Access:
http://cordcutting.com/review-of-cbs-all-access/

$6 a month, plus ads? I think that’s total crap! Garbage! ... Not a fan. I just canceled during my first month.
I am cancelling three days into the service. The number of commercials is horrendous. On top of that, they all repeat over and over.
CBS needs to do some soul searching and need better technical skills. Too many of the same commercials and too many retrieving errors when returning from commercial breaks. I’m about ready to drop it.
This is by far the worst app I’ve ever tried. The only reason we are paying $6 a month, which is completely ridiculous by the way, is that we’re really into binge watching Big Brother. As soon as we are done, we’re cancelling. We have the same annoyances as many – too many commercials, repetitive commercials, the inability to easily go from one episode to the next. But now, the episodes are freezing and crashing on us every 5 or 10 minutes! We’re continually restarting our Roku. When it starts again, it plays 1 commercial, then 3-5 commercials, then skips about 10 minutes of the show. I’m not even sure it’s worth it anymore, as much as we’re loving the show itself. The makers of this app better get it together.I signed up for a free trial month and within 12 hours I canceled. I do not even want it for free as the number of ads is absolutely ridiculous.
Commercials are horrendous...
I didn’t realize I would get to see all their fabulous commercials over and over with in the episodes of their programming.
Having to pay $5.99 per month to watch an absurd amount of commercials is absolutely rediculous.
If I pay for a service, don’t browbeat me with ads.
Canceled 30 mins after signing up. I actually called customer service. I didn’t know it was even legal to put that many commercials in a 43 min show. Up to 5 ads back to back, every single episode.
 
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I wish that CBS would give us North Americans the courtesy of being able to see it on Nexflix, like they're doing elsewhere in the world. At the very least, do a DVD or Blu-Ray eventually, please.

(As you can see, not a fan of the whole subscription only thing.)
 
Americans are proving to be the biggest whiners on the planet.

Well, sorry for saying that I dislike something, esp. since under the current circumstances, I can't watch the show, which I would like to.
 
I wish that CBS would give us North Americans the courtesy of being able to see it on Nexflix, like they're doing elsewhere in the world. At the very least, do a DVD or Blu-Ray eventually, please.
Why would CBS give business away to a competitor?

I do expect a DVD/Blu release at some point. I'm waiting for that, because there's no way I'm paying to watch commercials. And there's no way I'm paying a second tier to get rid of them. If the quotes from my post above is at all representative, CBS has some real work to do because the business model can't rely on compelled Trekkies alone.
 
Is CBSAA the only case where getting rid of the middleman results in HIGHER prices for the consumer?
 
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