I wish it was on regular tv. Even if u had to pay extra. I would rather watch on my tv than a little device or deal.with hooking it up to the tv
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Would you prefer if this new Star Trek show was on a different streaming site?
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Really?
I wish I had free access, but regular TV is crap, get caught in traffic, or sleep in, or go to a wedding, even if you have a recording device like a dvdr or tivo, is an awful lot of work and responsibility just to be entertained..
Bonded to a moment in time like that, an hour block, on a specific day, that nothing else in reality can penetrate, to see one show, is frankly, and I apologize for using such a dirty word, religion.
I wish I had free access, but regular TV is crap, get caught in traffic, or sleep in, or go to a wedding, even if you have a recording device like a dvdr or tivo, is an awful lot of work and responsibility just to be entertained..
Bonded to a moment in time like that, an hour block, on a specific day, that nothing else in reality can penetrate, to see one show, is frankly, and I apologize for using such a dirty word, religion.
The single most important news from Discovery so far is this:
http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/07/cb...ry-is-already-profitable-ahead-of-production/
It answers the question if this is a good model or a success for CBS. The answer is an unqualified: "YES" Also if anybody so uninformed as to mouth off on what a bad idea this was, show them this and shut them up fast.
To add to this news, Bloomberg states the new Star Trek show as a major reason CBS Corp., owner of the most-watched U.S. TV network, posted second-quarter results that beat analysts’ estimates as licensing deals for “Star Trek” boosted revenue and countered a drop in ad sales.
AND:
CBS’s online streaming services, All Access and Showtime, have amassed more than 2 million subscribers between them, Moonves said on a call with analysts. They are well on their way to meeting the company’s projections of 8 million combined subscribers by 2020, benefiting from new iterations of “Star Trek” and “Twin Peaks.”
Star Trek is still CBS's cash cow.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...eat-estimates-as-star-trek-deal-lifts-revenue
http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/07/cb...ry-is-already-profitable-ahead-of-production/
It answers the question if this is a good model or a success for CBS. The answer is an unqualified: "YES" Also if anybody so uninformed as to mouth off on what a bad idea this was, show them this and shut them up fast.
To add to this news, Bloomberg states the new Star Trek show as a major reason CBS Corp., owner of the most-watched U.S. TV network, posted second-quarter results that beat analysts’ estimates as licensing deals for “Star Trek” boosted revenue and countered a drop in ad sales.
AND:
CBS’s online streaming services, All Access and Showtime, have amassed more than 2 million subscribers between them, Moonves said on a call with analysts. They are well on their way to meeting the company’s projections of 8 million combined subscribers by 2020, benefiting from new iterations of “Star Trek” and “Twin Peaks.”
Star Trek is still CBS's cash cow.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...eat-estimates-as-star-trek-deal-lifts-revenue
Yep. With one million subscribers already, half a year before they begin airing exclusive content, CBS All Access isn't going away anytime soon.
This is actually not so great news.
If they think that Star Trek will double their subscribers, 2 million times 2 is harder to pull off than half a million times two. CBS ALL Access is too healthy. Is it already at critical mass that the amount of nerds drawn in by the allure of Star Trek is not a big enough boost to justify their investment in Star Trek? Are there another as yet unsubscribed 2 million customers out there in TV Land on the fence about CBS All Acess?
60 percent of their budget is paid for with international pre-sales.
A 150 lawyers in zoot suits bought Star Trek, assuming it's money. That's an act of faith, that could pan out well or not so well. How much information did these "lawyers" have when they decided to promise hundreds of thousands of dollars to CBS, based on the sales figure of paramounts movies which has nothing to do with CBS televisioneering.
If the show turns out to be great and beloved by all, that's superb, but this is a house of card relying on sucking up to over a hundred distinct foreign markets to assure a continued revenue flow.
Is Netflix China a thing?
Becuase... Google says "No".
Well that means that Discovery is still allowed to tell Time travel stories, so I'm happy.
If they think that Star Trek will double their subscribers, 2 million times 2 is harder to pull off than half a million times two. CBS ALL Access is too healthy. Is it already at critical mass that the amount of nerds drawn in by the allure of Star Trek is not a big enough boost to justify their investment in Star Trek? Are there another as yet unsubscribed 2 million customers out there in TV Land on the fence about CBS All Acess?
60 percent of their budget is paid for with international pre-sales.
A 150 lawyers in zoot suits bought Star Trek, assuming it's money. That's an act of faith, that could pan out well or not so well. How much information did these "lawyers" have when they decided to promise hundreds of thousands of dollars to CBS, based on the sales figure of paramounts movies which has nothing to do with CBS televisioneering.
If the show turns out to be great and beloved by all, that's superb, but this is a house of card relying on sucking up to over a hundred distinct foreign markets to assure a continued revenue flow.
Is Netflix China a thing?
Becuase... Google says "No".
Well that means that Discovery is still allowed to tell Time travel stories, so I'm happy.
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I'm not sure you "get it". Every single penny they make from any new subscribers is already profit from this point forward.
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This is actually not so great news.
If they think that Star Trek will double their subscribers, 2 million times 2 is harder to pull off than half a million times two. CBS ALL Access is too healthy. Is it already at critical mass that the amount of nerds drawn in by the allure of Star Trek is not a big enough boost to justify their investment in Star Trek? Are there another as yet unsubscribed 2 million customers out there in TV Land on the fence about CBS All Acess?
60 percent of their budget is paid for with international pre-sales.
A 150 lawyers in zoot suits bought Star Trek, assuming it's money. That's an act of faith, that could pan out well or not so well. How much information did these "lawyers" have when they decided to promise hundreds of thousands of dollars to CBS, based on the sales figure of paramounts movies which has nothing to do with CBS televisioneering.
If the show turns out to be great and beloved by all, that's superb, but this is a house of card relying on sucking up to over a hundred distinct foreign markets to assure a continued revenue flow.
Is Netflix China a thing?
Becuase... Google says "No".
Well that means that Discovery is still allowed to tell Time travel stories, so I'm happy.
How about they put that profit to good use?
Say... DS9 on Blu-ray?
I'm happy for him.
Say... DS9 on Blu-ray?
And a show he's been asking to make for years.
I'm happy for him.
Will be interesting to see what they do for the international market. There is no CBS access outside north america as far as I know so they would lose a lot of profit. Or would they let the show be shown on normal tv in other countries? If they botch it not only will the international market lose interest, the few who will know or want to see it will download the episodes.
I mean with todays technology, people will not wait. Someone I know will download the Trek episodes as soon as they've been released in North America unless they are shown on tv or similar where that person lives at least the next day. Pretty much how HBO managed to do with Game of Thrones.
I mean with todays technology, people will not wait. Someone I know will download the Trek episodes as soon as they've been released in North America unless they are shown on tv or similar where that person lives at least the next day. Pretty much how HBO managed to do with Game of Thrones.
CBS All Access is a massive platform offering thousands of programs. In 6 months Star Trek starts. The current 2 million subscribers have nothing to do with Star Trek. The current 2 million subscribers signed on for other reasons than in 6 months, in 6 monthly instalments later from now that Star Trek will start.
In 6 months from now when Star Trek starts, CBS is expecting a new additional audience there specifically to see Star Trek which will manifest, and double or triple their then current subscriptions. If that doesn't happen, then Star Trek is a failure to CBS All Access, since that's what it's supposedly there for, to increase subscriptions, not to hold subscriptions steady or to have no effect on subscriptions as they decline whether it is there or not.
If All Access continues to have only 2 million subscribers or less whether Star Trek is there or not, then what is the point for paying for %40 of Star Trek's production to see zero uptick in CBS All Access's subscriptions?
If an extra 4 million house holds sign up in 6 months before Star Trek starts, to watch Star Trek, then that's a victory. If their numbers stay stagnant at 2 million, even if every subscriber watches Star Trek, and they don't leave after watching Star Trek then it is the entire platform that is generating the same continuous subscriptions, and a single boutique expensive vanity project that hasn't changed that number of subscribers is moot.
Costing CBS nothing, because the budget is returned, is a far cry than not generating minimum levels of profit, especially if they can figure out how to make something way cheaper that will increase subscriptions.
The world went mental about Full House coming back.
How much less does it cost to make an episode of Fuller House than Game of Thrones?
I see it's not on Android TV. That better change by January. I have can Google Cast to my Nvidia Shield TV, but some apps won't cast to it. Does anyone have this device and CBSAA right now to test if it casts to the Shield?
And are you guys telling me that I will have to watch this show with commercials and 2.0 audio? They really want me to torrent this show...
It's a really distressing trend that streaming services aren't even bothering with the quality of audio we've had on cable TV for 20+ years.
And are you guys telling me that I will have to watch this show with commercials and 2.0 audio? They really want me to torrent this show...
It's a really distressing trend that streaming services aren't even bothering with the quality of audio we've had on cable TV for 20+ years.
Basic question: How can anything not be available when it's streamed over the internet, unless a country like North Korea puts up a firewall to block it?
It's not just North Korea. There are a whole lot of things that can't be seen in/from other countries, and even parts of the US. For example NHL Live streams their games online. But if you try watching a Chicago Blackhawks game IN Chicago it will be blocked from viewing (local blackout rules... You'll have to watch it on Chicago TV). If you're in Europe there are shows on Netflix in the US that they won't be able to view, etc. Just like Star Trek Discovery won't be viewable on Netflix in the US. It all depends on your IP which shows providers where you are located.
I understand IP (internet protocol) issues since I do network software development. My question might be better asked as who is blocking US Netflix outside the US? Either Netflix themselves or an ISP on the remote end, either contractually or by regulation (law). While I know technology, I don't know international law and commerce. Who forces Netflix or anyone else to inflict this damage upon themselves?
Maybe I haven't understood your question but I'll try to answer you.
Nobody is blocking US Netflix, but US Netflix blocks the rest of the world. This is because every country (almost) has its own rights to certain tv-shows. Ie, a TV-channel in Ukraine has bought the exclusive rights to show Tv-show X from ABC. Tv-show X is no longer showing on US TV but is on US Netflix, which would make Ukrainian people able to watch show X on US netflix, thus making the ukraininan tv-channel lose viewers. Hence Netflix starts a ukrainian netflix without tv-show X.
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