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Would you have preferred the conspiracy bugs (TNG s1) over the Dominion?

I think it would have been a nice tie in since it’s uniquely TNG stuff. Also, they could have been infiltrating people for years doing untold things. Riker could have pulled his cool “I’m gonna eat the worms…but nope phasered!” Move.

Also, don’t know why anybody would care- but my dad and I waited every season of TNG for them to come back. So, on a personal level, I would have enjoyed it.

P.S. I wonder what would happen if one of those bugs got in the Borg Queen. Or conversely, if the Borg could assimilate them. The Romulans have the Tal Shiar, the Cardassians the Obsidian Order and the Borg could have some busy little bugs.
 
Now I'm wishing we got to see the Borg fight against Romulan or Cardassian ships

According to Voyager, some Romulans had been assimilated.

in Picard season one, they claimed this is not so, but they were just going with what they knew from the alpha quadrant, and the Romulans that they try to assimilate were indeed Zhat Vash
 
According to Voyager, some Romulans had been assimilated.

in Picard season one, they claimed this is not so, but they were just going with what they knew from the alpha quadrant, and the Romulans that they try to assimilate were indeed Zhat Vash

True. I just would've liked to see a Cube go against some D'deridexes or Galors
 
No, It's just been so long since the Conspiracy bugs and they've never been encountered again. I would just prefer they stay forgotten at this point.
 
I think the “bugs” were too obscure a reference for many more casual Trek fans. The Dominion being involved was a good should out to DS9 and Borg are pretty well known Trek Villains. I was disappointed we never really had follow up on the “conspiracy bugs” but I don’t think they would have worked for Picard. As much as I was thinking “Borg AGAIN?” For a show called “Picard” which has Seven as a major character, Borg made sense. And tying the dominion in was tying DS9 and TNG/Voyager together. S3 of Picard really did a good job featuring all three of the series of that era.
 
To be honest I only watched Picard S3 because a few folk on YouTube were saying that the Conspiracy Bugs were going to make an appearance.
Having just finished E9 and realising (with great disappointment) that it's now too late, I don't feel too enclined to watch E10.
Since (as I believe) the Bugs were originally intended to be the big bad, before the Borg pushed in, I have written a few story ideas, for the Star Trek Role Playing Game as to how the Bugs might (in an alternate reality) been used in such a position.
Any way, que sera!
 
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I think the “bugs” were too obscure a reference for many more casual Trek fans. The Dominion being involved was a good should out to DS9 and Borg are pretty well known Trek Villains. I was disappointed we never really had follow up on the “conspiracy bugs” but I don’t think they would have worked for Picard. As much as I was thinking “Borg AGAIN?” For a show called “Picard” which has Seven as a major character, Borg made sense. And tying the dominion in was tying DS9 and TNG/Voyager together. S3 of Picard really did a good job featuring all three of the series of that era.

Imagine it's 1981 and you're working on the new Star Trek movie plot - how many people really remembered Khan from that one-off episode? Now compare to the Romulans and Klingons who were used more in TOS and were more recognizable - to the same iconic status as the Borg despite the few number of adventures they had? (We didn't see Klingons proper until TSFS. Nobody includes the one-off in TMP as Gene was wanting everyone to be buddy-buddy in it and it sorta shows. TNG got that right anyhow... Romulans were present in TFF and TUC, but just whip out AftterEffects and digitally replace their bodies with apple trees plopping their seeds everywhere and nobody would notice the difference. At all.)

It's really not too obscure a villain, as "Conspiracy" is a highly rated episode, especially considering it's cootie-laden season one. Casuals might just say "Oh, the space crawdads one?" But ask them about the characters in 70 or so TNG TV episodes and they won't have a clue by comparison. Even some devout fans would slip up, look at the Red Letter Media trivia contests of recent - I'm pretty sure they're more than casual fans and they got tripped up by some doozy questions too.

Any character can come back and be made to work. I'll get to a really good doozy of an example later.

Many casual TNG fans would be just as bemused over this "Dominion" thingy they kept being talked about in PIC, as DS9 - by the time the Dominion was first introduced - was arguably a niche show when compared to TNG ever was, based on Neilsen ratings.

Casual fans aren't dumb either, missing bits and pieces have tons of making-of books and materials readily available, and even if they weren't then it's surely not impossible to do a recap - either folding it in via the script, or slapping up a couple of clips with "LAST TIME ON" superimposed if nothing else?

Plus, it's a refreshing breather from reusing the same baddie as "the big bad" fodder yet again. Season 3 may used them better and went back to VOY regarding big plot points, but they still came across as "Again?" and not wrongly so. They are the most recognizable villain/monster, but overusing them doesn't help. And why didn't season 1 look up where they left off in VOY, instead of the goofy route they took? (And why replace the iconic green hue with bluetooth blue? Cuz, style? Oh well.)

Best reason of all to put this "obscure" idea to rest is this: The Pakleds were just as much one-offs as Khan was in TOS. Worse - not only were the Pakleds obscure, but they were also not even liked by fans, casuals, and/or otherwise. The space crawdads are far more readily recognizable than the Pakleds were, and without responses being said in derision. But they came back and were added a terrific sense of threat with some good scripts. Is there really a reason that the neon 80s crawdads couldn't make a return with their host creatures and not be successful? After all, the original idea was that these fritters were employed by big insect things called the Borg - but the 1988 writer's strike put the kibosh on that, resulting in the cybernetic monstrosities because that was a quick (and impeccably brilliant) way to get the show back on track again. (There was a directors' strike the previous year and even an actors' strike in 1988 as well.)
 
You'd think casual fans aren't dumb yet I see so many people online complain about "doing homework"

Also, the romulans only showed up one more time than Khan did in TOS
 
I wouldn't have minded a follow-up story with the Conspiracy Bugs as a story for Picard, but if it was going to be the final story, it had to be the Borg. The Borg are who have haunted him for 35 years. The Conspiracy Bugs are no one to Picard.

If they have the Conspiracy Bugs in Legacy (if it's made), I wouldn't object.

"But they already used the Borg in Picard!" someone might say. Yes and no. The Borg -- or more accurately the xBs -- weren't the enemies in PIC Season 1. And the Borg Queen in Season 2 wasn't really an antagonist. She joins with Jurati and eventually becomes the Jurati Borg Queen. Whatever you want to call that, it wasn't Business As Usual. So Season 3 is the first time we truly have the Borg Queen -- the one we knew from First Contact and Voyager -- around and as the adversary. And the Borg Queen was Picard's enemy first, not Janeway's.
 
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I wouldn't have minded a follow-up story with the Conspiracy Bugs as a story for Picard, but if it was going to be the final story, it had to be the Borg. The Borg are who have haunted him for 35 years. The Conspiracy Bugs are no one to Picard.

If they have the Conspiracy Bugs in Legacy (if it's made), I wouldn't object.

"But they already used the Borg in Picard!" someone might say. Yes and no. The Borg -- or more accurately the xBs -- weren't the enemies in PIC Season 1. And the Borg Queen in Season 2 wasn't really an antagonist. She joins with Jurati and eventually becomes the Jurati Borg Queen. Whatever you want to call that, it wasn't Business As Usual. So Season 3 is the first time we truly have the Borg Queen -- the one we knew from First Contact and Voyager -- around and as the adversary. And the Borg Queen was Picard's enemy first, not Janeway's.

Yeah I get why people complain about the Borg being overused but as you point out, those were different Borg, and tbh they're still not even the most frequently occurring alien race
 
Well, it wasn't exactly THE Dominion, was it? More like some irate Founders. That being said, I would have preferred Amanda Plummer's character to have been the Female Founder who was imprisoned for war crimes for leading the Alpha Quadrant forces in the war. SHE despised solids, too.
 
Since (as I believe) the Bugs were originally intended to be the big bad, before the Borg pushed in
From what I understand the bugs were only briefly considered until they realized they bugs kill their hosts, so they were replaced with enemy changelings since they could bring in legacy characters and not kill them.

“I do like the conspiracy bugs, I did consider for a hot minute, the conspiracy bugs,” Matalas continued. “The issue with the conspiracy bugs is they kill their host. So that would mean anyone that you saw with a bug in them was dead, and you wouldn’t be able to do the paranoia thriller that you wanted to do if it was somebody you loved, that meant they were dead. So there [were] about three storylines I couldn’t do without killing legacy characters.”

https://gizmodo.com/star-trek-picard-season-3-changelings-conspiracy-tng-1850214543
 
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