"So you're all astronauts on some sort of... star trek?" I'm truly surprised they restrained themselves from following that line with, "Within a century of tomorrow, people will be making star treks on a regular basis. We're, well I guess you can say, we're the next generation of that!"
Klingonaase. And John Ford makes the translator/traitor point, about how the ideas behind the words get lost (in rl, Vostok, Voskhod, Zarya)
Go all in: "To date, there have been nine forays into deep space. Some of us might even embark on some sort of grand voyage. Quite the entreprise, really."
"It's time to put an end to your trek through the stars" from All Good Things sounded so much classier.
I think that's because DeLancie delivered it with a dose of snark, which always helps such 4th-wall breaking dialogue go down easier
"Now, the original series of treks was the standard by which we all follow. The animated series is something we tend to ignore. Not sure why we call it that, everyone was moving all the time anyway. A scheduled Phase II was cancelled in favor of the motion picture, a documentary meant to recruit for Starfleet. The wrath of Khan necessitated the search for Spock and since they were on Vulcan, uh that's the race you'll meet tomorrow, they had to undertake a voyage home before they went to the final frontier, which was truly the undiscovered country. Then stuff happened, but we don't need to get into it, since for generations we've been star trekkin'!" I was thinking of how I don't mind the various and constant "Doctor who?" jokes in, well, the eponymous show. I think that's because they're treated with some kind of *nudge, nudge, wink, wink* attitude DeLancie's snark delivers. Cromwell, as good an actor as he is, delivered the line too deadpan for my tastes. The other issue was that Q's line was in keeping with this character (I would not be surprised if the Continuum could break the fourth wall). But, Cochrane's line seemed odd. You could tell no actual human being would say something like that, unless they were referencing something.
Agreed on both points. Cromwell's line sounded forced and unnatural, wheras DeLancie's line (admittedly in part due to the nature of the character he was playing) just worked in my opinion.
Yep - just imagine if instead Q had said "it's time to put an end to your so-called star trek". Even DeLancie couldn't have made that sound convincing. Why ST:FC tried to better that only a couple of years later I'll never understand
Only works if they're going to uninhabited planets that have never been explored by any other alien race in the history of the universe.
Cochran's line also just doesn't make sense. Riker had just finished telling him that he was a human who had come from the future. It would make more sense if Cochran had stated that they were on "some sort of time trek."
I'm not sure how it would apply to "no man" or "no human" since that is the species going to said world for the first time. Difficulties only arise with less specific terms like "no-one" or "none"
That is not one of the worst lines in Trek, that is one of the BEST lines in Trek. It is and always will be a classic line.
Someone pointed it out in another thread...and it's spot-on as a terrible line: Sulu's "Surely not!" In TUC
Personally I think "Code of Honor" is full of gems.. TASHA: "We're too late. She's growing cold." CRUSHER: "Sorry, that clashes with my instructions."