Yeah: well over a century after a young McCoy made an impression on a previous Dax host, no one on the Enterprise D even new about symbiotes.
Worf was pretty much ignorant about Trill culture
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Yeah: well over a century after a young McCoy made an impression on a previous Dax host, no one on the Enterprise D even new about symbiotes.
I'm in no way tolerant of Discovery's outing of Section 31. The 22nd century mention was just through Reed, and the 24th was after Bashir spilled the beans to Sisko, but the official status they have in Discovery is absurd.
I fully agree with this statement, prequels are putrid on the whole because they end up retconning and vandalizing the best parts of a franchise while adding little to nothing of value. Its the ultimate, cynical move that seeks easy money from established fans while embracing creative bankruptcy and lazyness to pump out a medicore product that satisfies no one.
- The Dax Symbiont was about 300 years old compared to Worf's 30 in the final season, so it had 10x's the relative life experience that Worf does, including two+ centuries of contact with Klingons.
- Dax's two most recent previous hosts, Kurzon and Jadzia, were Klingonphiles, and Kurzon was the Federation Ambassador to Q'o'nos who regularly went head to head against the Klingon elites and then partied with them and befriended them afterward, so it knew about Klingons and Klingon society extensively, and had their respect in turn.
- Outside of the Great Tribble Hunt and their changing appearance, Klingons are pretty open about their society and customs, whereas Trill were generally very secretive about their rituals and customs and the Symbionts until recent times.
- Worf was still dealing with the trauma of losing his wife and his concern over her eternal soul reaching Sto'Vo'kor or not when the Ezri host was unexpectedly thrust into his life, so it's a big adjustment. Trill are generally more used to dealing with the transition and Ezri had her counseling training to fall back on, and yet it was still difficult even for her since she was not a Trill Initiate.
- Worf only got a little training in Klingon life as a child before his parents were killed when he was six and he was adopted to go live with humans (the Rozhenkos) on the farm colony of Gault and then in Belarus on Earth. So he had kind of an insular upbringing and not a lot of exposure to other cultures until he joined Starfleet Academy, and he compensated for this by spending most of his time obsessing over Klingon ritual and culture to a degree even most Klingons don't adhere to.
Not every detail, no, but not even the first thing about Trills?
Possibly not during the afterglow, but maybe when chatting before. Don't people chat before?
Was there a rule about not talking about symbionts presented on the screen?
Didn't it come out that basically all Trills are capable of joining with a symbiont, but that little fact is kept from the Trill public as it would cause an uproar from too many people wanting to be joined?
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Yes that was totally covered in a specific DS9 episode, though I am not sure which one. It was an interesting wrinkle but also sort of perplexing in how a fact such as that would have gone totally undiscovered on Trill. In fact one would think the selection process was put in place by the Trill precisely because symbiotes can merge with just about anyone, best to ensure then that the best and brightest are selected to hopefully make best use of the experience and memories of past lives. It would make sense that a secret like that would persist for ages but certainly not in a society as advanced in medicine as the Trill surely were before membership in the Federation.
Maybe the commission uses illegally/semi-unethically obtained intel on whose memories will someday be worth preserving (via time travel).
What if a symbiont wanted to live its own, outside of the pool life without a host and some life support mechanism enabled them to do so?
What if a symbiont wanted to live its own, outside of the pool life without a host and some life support mechanism enabled them to do so?
I wasn't fond of Ezri but I was more disappointed at the lost opportunity. Dax should have, according to Trill tradition, come back as a male. If they wanted to explore the aftermath of Worf, Julian, and Quark apparently all being love with her, and what it meant to them to have Dax back in a new body, making it a male would have opened a lot deeper stories.
It was fine to have a Jadzia/Lenara kiss, but how about a Worf/MaleDax kiss? And more importantly what would have led up to it? What would be Julian's feelings (given I was always questioning about his sexual persuasion.) How would Quark react I can't even imagine. Were they in love with Dax and thinking they were in love with Jadzia?
Ezri was just really boring for me. Sisko always saw Dax as Dax and that was their relationship. Getting a chance to really bring out what the others were actually attracted to would made it more interesting, open up a role for the new Dax that had some meat to it.
It was fine to have a Jadzia/Lenara kiss, but how about a Worf/MaleDax kiss? And more importantly what would have led up to it? What would be Julian's feelings (given I was always questioning about his sexual persuasion.) How would Quark react I can't even imagine. Were they in love with Dax and thinking they were in love with Jadzia?
Ezri was just really boring for me. Sisko always saw Dax as Dax and that was their relationship. Getting a chance to really bring out what the others were actually attracted to would made it more interesting, open up a role for the new Dax that had some meat to it.
When did they say it was traditional for trills to alternate sex of their hosts? That would not be practical, unless all trill stayed on their homeworld where numerous qualified hosts were always available. Julian said he transplanted Dax into Ezri on an emergency basis because she was an available host and Dax might not have made it to the Trill homeworld to get put into a fully vetted and trained host.
Okay. But the point remains it was an emergency operation into the only host who was available.
Worf spent a lot of TNG and DS9 as a reactionary chauvinist. In particular, with both K'Ehleyr and Jadzia, he expected his romantic partners to accommodate his conservative interpretation of Klingon culture yet failed to show reciprocal respect for their cultures or cultural values. He certainly, for instance, didn't seem to even think about the idea of having a Trill wedding, or a combination Trill/Klingon wedding.
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