Worf and Jadzia's marriage after the series.

[Thestral]

Any luck?

 

[Distorted Humor]

Any luck?

will look tonight...will find it before I start watching b5

 

[Jono]

Ron Moore said that he thought that if Sirella didn't appear Jadzia might have slept with Atoa.

I personally don't buy that. She was flirting with him, but it was fun flirting rather than "tonight we're going to be singing with Akon and the Lonely Island".

 

[Distorted Humor]

Jono is right, I went home and lunch and looked it up..

its Ron Moore in the "24 century wedding" extra. And I think that there is some truth to it as I see Jadzia, not that she WAS, but that night if they got alone Atoa would be counting spots....

 

[Thestral]

I'm with Jono, I don't buy it either. I have a higher opinion of people than Ron Moore though if BSG is anything to go by.

 

[exodus]

I don't agree at all. There's no evidence to support the idea that Jadzia would have cheated or even left - we never see her in a long-term relationship before Worf, we only hear occasionally about dates. She was flirty and enjoyed spending time with men, but that's not the same as being unfaithful.

I agree.
Especially when we take into account "Let's He Who is Without Sin..." She spent the entire ep. explaining to Worf just this: that flirting isn't equal to being unfaithful. Jadzia flirted with Quark too.

 

[GNDN]

Yeah, not buying it. I know Moore said it, but I don't think Dax would ever do it, drunk or not.

 

[Deckerd]

Ron Moore said that he thought that if Sirella didn't appear Jadzia might have slept with Atoa.

But aren't we glad she did turn up? That punch expunged many a quibble about Jadzia.

My tuppenceworth is that Ron Moore didn't get her character if he thinks that.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Plus it seemed to me that Jadzia treated Julian like a little kid anyways, like if he was someone to watch over, which you can see in some of the series, which is why she brushed him off.

Worf was the first man to enter her life that actually challenged her and acted like a man, by standing up and following his beliefs, right or wrong, and that gave Dax something she wanted. Someone who'd stand by their decisions and not end up in another useless marriage that will be a waste of the Dax's time.

Jim

And yet.. she also treated Worf like a little kid.

I guess it's hard for a joined Trill to take a lot of stuff as seriously as they would have the first time around.

 

[Rush Limborg]

Of course Julian would have been next in line if Worf didn't come along, there is not much of a choice, Sisko in her mind is still that little Ensign that Curzon molded into a Commanding Officer, O'Brien is married, Garak and Quark don't have to be explained, and all that leaves us is Odo which goes without saying isn't anywhere near the running.

Plus it seemed to me that Jadzia treated Julian like a little kid anyways, like if he was someone to watch over, which you can see in some of the series, which is why she brushed him off.

Worf was the first man to enter her life that actually challenged her and acted like a man, by standing up and following his beliefs, right or wrong, and that gave Dax something she wanted. Someone who'd stand by their decisions and not end up in another useless marriage that will be a waste of the Dax's time.

Jim

Whoa--Julian Bashir certainly was a man to stand up and follow his beliefs, right or wrong--and stand by his decisions. And if "acting like a man vs. acting like a boy", is the issue...Worf threw a temper-tantrum a lot more often than Julian did. Come to think of it...I don't recall Bashir ever really exploding. If we're going by "maturity"...one need only see "Afterimage", and note how Worf basically acts like a jealous spoiled brat, and has to be told to man up....

And as teacake pointed out...Jadzia treated Worf in a rather patronizing way, different from her treatment of Julian really only in the sense that sex was involved.

 

[CaptainStoner]

Ahh, certainly possible; on the other hand, she might have been able to change Worf enough that he'd be a better fit with larger Klingon culture.

Yes, who knows.
And of course there's also the underlying assumption that a marriage is a failure if it doesn't last forever. No one ever says they had a successful 10-year marriage. Any ending of that status is a "failure".

I'll rephrase it, if Worf and Jadzia did end up separating, I'm 99% sure Jadzia would be the first one to call it.

 

[Thestral]

True nuff. Worf's far too much of a traditionalist. Course, Dax also carried a romance over into another life...

 

[CaptainStoner]

True nuff. Worf's far too much of a traditionalist. Course, Dax also carried a romance over into another life...

Well, you know. "Till death do us part" is really more of a guideline.

 

[Thestral]

Actually, come to think of it, the incident with Lenara Kahn (Khan?) makes a stronger case for Dax's loyalty to somebody she truly cares about.

 

[Rom's Sehlat]

Actually, come to think of it, the incident with Lenara Kahn (Khan?) makes a stronger case for Dax's loyalty to somebody she truly cares about.

Emphasis mine.

Does she truly care about Worf?

Perhaps one is more manly by how he looks and how much he growls and scowls, not by his intelligence and maturity.

 

[Distorted Humor]

I still say Dax saw worf marriage as a fun attempt then something that would last a lifetime.

 

[Deckerd]

I still say Dax saw worf marriage as a fun attempt then something that would last a lifetime.

I say the opposite. If all she wanted was a fling she already had him.

 

[Distorted Humor]

I still say Dax saw worf marriage as a fun attempt then something that would last a lifetime.

I say the opposite. If all she wanted was a fling she already had him.

Guess we will agree to disagree, I don't think Jazdia was the type to settle down for a life with one man. But that is my opinion on how i see it, and you can see points on both sides.

 

[GNDN]

I still say Dax saw worf marriage as a fun attempt then something that would last a lifetime.

I say the opposite. If all she wanted was a fling she already had him.

Guess we will agree to disagree, I don't think Jazdia was the type to settle down for a life with one man. But that is my opinion on how i see it, and you can see points on both sides.

Dax may be flirtatious, hedonistic at times, and incredibly stubborn, but I don't think she would have put up with any of the Klingon ritual, or Martok's wife's overbearing demands if she weren't serious.

There is nothing to be gained by trivializing the oaths she was taking with Worf. She and Curzon had too much knowledge and respect for Klingon culture to think of marrying Worf as nothing more than a lark. If she meant to do something she was planning on giving it her all

 

[CaptainStoner]

I'm not questioning Jadzia's loyalty to those she loves and cares about. In fact I think Worf's integrity is more at question in that regard, with sending Alexander to his parents the second or third time, when they'd already said they were too old to handle him, and all that BS about keeping the boy with him.

Really, who knows. But I don't equate Jadzia's free spirit with being feckless, actually it gives her more integrity by virtue of being true to oneself.
If anyone could have called Worf out on Alexander, it would have been Jadzia.