There is one fanatical person I am currently posting about on here, and he ain't a DC fan.
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There is one fanatical person I am currently posting about on here, and he ain't a DC fan.
What do any of those forums have to do with this one?
So not one post in this thread then? Got it.
As I said before,. Marvel is only brought up here by YOU and the fanboys.
PS: You should follow Dale's lead and start your own "I love Marvel more than D.C" thread and stop littering this one.
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I recently made my first post in this thread. It was a minor criticism of the film; specifically, I was bothered by the way Diana treats Charlie and the apparent hypocrisy of it. My comments were belittled as "backlash" from an MCU fan unwelcome in this thread.
Do we really need to reserve this thread only for unmitigated praise of the film and demand any criticisms go to another thread? There's nothing wrong with loving the movie, but I think y'all could stand to be a little more tolerant of criticism.
Do we really need to reserve this thread only for unmitigated praise of the film and demand any criticisms go to another thread? There's nothing wrong with loving the movie, but I think y'all could stand to be a little more tolerant of criticism.
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I liked it. She was born a God Killer. It stands to reason that her powers would be most effective against a God.
I liken her power progression to be like a video game - the longer she fights, the more power ups she gets. In the beginning, she could be injured by a bullet.
She was specifically born to kill Ares, right?
So Zeus endowed her with a magical "kill Ares" superpower, so all she really needed to do to kill him was show up and do it. Exciting!
99% of superhero movie fights follow the Villain beats Hero within an inch of His/Her life than Hero rises up and defeats Villain structure/trope.
I'm not excusing the final fight of WW as it was easily the weakest part of the film, but it wasn't surprising that it was included. Superhero films struggle to break free from the Big Fight in Act III.
I think Spiderman:Homecoming did a decent job of tweaking that trope, mostly by making it short and sweet and avoiding the big Villain Death Scene.
So a borderline invincible hero who has random deus ex machina powers to save her at the end. How boring.
That describes Superman.
At least his movies have him fight opponents who could actually harm him. The WW writers were too afraid to put her in real danger.
Wonder Woman vs the rest of the DCEU
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/...uad/Wonder-Woman-(2017)/Justice-League-(2017)
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?view=weekend&id=dcuni.htm
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=dc.htm
Wonder Woman's staying power is unmatched by the other films.
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/...uad/Wonder-Woman-(2017)/Justice-League-(2017)
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?view=weekend&id=dcuni.htm
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=dc.htm
Wonder Woman's staying power is unmatched by the other films.
See, last six pages of posters? This is how it's done.
They did. With Ares.
This only tells me that "Wonder Woman" is more popular than the other DCEU movies. This still does not convince me that it is the best in the franchise.
The easiest fight she had in the movie, once her Deus Ex Machina powers kicked in.
I had a free credit on Amazon Prime, so I watched WW.
Good, I gave it a B.
Stand out in the movie was Chris Pine, I thought he was a great Steve Trevor.
GG was good as WW, maybe not as splendiferous as the hype, but a good solid performance.
I liked the world war 1 version of Easy Co.
Some of the action in the middle of the movie was really good.
The beginning and ending were the weakest parts of the movie, specifically the exposition dump about the gods before they got to the island and the weird CGI battle at the end.
I didn't reduce the grade because of it but I just thought it totally ridiculous that Zeus and that whole pantheon of gods was introduced just to have killed them all off as backstory, couldn't they have thought of something better? But I guess the studio wanted some kind of explanation hammered onto the beginning. It just seemed like a very blunt way of doing things, "Look there's all these super powered beings, well there were because they are all dead now, so nevermind." It's and Informed Attribute to make Ares seem super tough when he really didn't even seem to be much there at all.
I like Captrek's point about hypocrisy, but I'm went with the fact that she barely knows which way is up about the world, having had to be told that yes that's a man only a few days before, so it didn't bother me.
I also wonder about the whole scene where the German's attacked the island. First, there seemed to be no kind of establishment for the need for hostilities. Do German sailors routinely shoot at strange women on sight? Strange clothes aside, it could have been any Greek island. I could see that the Amazons may have such an attitude (it's a secret island), but it would have been nice to have a little mention of it in that huge exposition dump I mentioned above (unless I missed it). Also, after all of the guys in the boats died, what did the guys in the ships do? Just leave without checking for their men? I wonder how good the Amazons would have done if the sailors opened up with some of those 5 inch guns on the ship for a coastal bombardment?
One last thing: And I didn't like that Antiope got killed too easily, either.
Good, I gave it a B.
Stand out in the movie was Chris Pine, I thought he was a great Steve Trevor.
GG was good as WW, maybe not as splendiferous as the hype, but a good solid performance.
I liked the world war 1 version of Easy Co.
Some of the action in the middle of the movie was really good.
The beginning and ending were the weakest parts of the movie, specifically the exposition dump about the gods before they got to the island and the weird CGI battle at the end.
I didn't reduce the grade because of it but I just thought it totally ridiculous that Zeus and that whole pantheon of gods was introduced just to have killed them all off as backstory, couldn't they have thought of something better? But I guess the studio wanted some kind of explanation hammered onto the beginning. It just seemed like a very blunt way of doing things, "Look there's all these super powered beings, well there were because they are all dead now, so nevermind." It's and Informed Attribute to make Ares seem super tough when he really didn't even seem to be much there at all.
I like Captrek's point about hypocrisy, but I'm went with the fact that she barely knows which way is up about the world, having had to be told that yes that's a man only a few days before, so it didn't bother me.
I also wonder about the whole scene where the German's attacked the island. First, there seemed to be no kind of establishment for the need for hostilities. Do German sailors routinely shoot at strange women on sight? Strange clothes aside, it could have been any Greek island. I could see that the Amazons may have such an attitude (it's a secret island), but it would have been nice to have a little mention of it in that huge exposition dump I mentioned above (unless I missed it). Also, after all of the guys in the boats died, what did the guys in the ships do? Just leave without checking for their men? I wonder how good the Amazons would have done if the sailors opened up with some of those 5 inch guns on the ship for a coastal bombardment?
One last thing: And I didn't like that Antiope got killed too easily, either.
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The German warship hit some reef and sank. If you look at the movie closely, you can see the ship slowly sinking every time the camera focuses on it. The only problematic thing about this scenario is that there are no "reefs" in any non-tropical waters.
As long as she remained unaware of her "Deus Ex Machina", Wonder Woman was in trouble with Ares. And "Wonder Woman" is not the only fictional work - good or bad - that possessed a "deus ex machina".
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Oh, Thanks! I totally missed that. I could buy magical ship eating reefs as a secret island defense.
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