Wonder Woman (2017)
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The Dawn Of The Justice League special on the CW tonight had some footage from the Wonder Woman movie.
Bullshit, Wonder Woman is about sexual equality, any more than any other bullet proof flying god, like Superman, is about Sexual equality. She is inhuman and alien. It's impossible to aspire to her post human Greek Diety enhanced ideal because what she's bringing is ten stories above whatever any other regular human, man or women, is capable of achieving.
Arrgh!
Ladies and gentlemen, the nicest outfit in Kevin Smiths wardrobe.
Arrgh!
Ladies and gentlemen, the nicest outfit in Kevin Smiths wardrobe.
Everything you said is true but she still has that top spot in people's minds.
What I've been hearing lately about the movie is encouraging. Both the director in that clip and Pine in a recent interview I recall reading somewhere stressed that Wonder Woman is "good and kind and loving" (Jenkins's words) as well as a masterful fighter, and that's reassuring to hear given how dark a direction Superman and Batman seem to be heading in. I was afraid they'd be focusing too heavily on the super-warrior side at the expense of the empathy and compassion that are at the heart of the character. But it sounds like they may actually be getting at least one of their heroes right.
^ I was thinking about this the other day (Lynda Carter vs later animated versions) so that's good to hear.
Footage looks pretty damn good, despite being a bit gloomier and moodier than I might have hoped for in a WW movie. But we've only seen a handful of scenes so it's probably a bit early to judge what the overall tone is going to be.
Gadot definitely looks cool as hell in action though, and I love the sight of her in that costume in the WWI setting.
Gadot definitely looks cool as hell in action though, and I love the sight of her in that costume in the WWI setting.
Eh, Iron Man remains Marvel's most profitable movie franchise. I can't fault them for doing what works - especially since Thor and Cap had sequels as well in Phase Two.
While I don't disagree, I also think it's fair to point out that Marvel doesn't have a single female character with the level of popularity of Wonder Woman. Part of that is Marvel's fault - they haven't really pushed any characters to take on prominence. But I'd also argue part of it is that Marvel has a ton of B-level female characters that work well (Captain Marvel, Black Widow, Scarlet Witch, Invisible Woman) while DC really has one big female character that stands out heads and shoulders above everyone else. Really, if DC didn't get a Wonder Woman movie going early on, that would stand out more. I don't think there's as much interest as the other two, but there is a clear big three at DC.
Anyway, I appreciated the footage. However, wouldn't it be nice to actually hear her speak a line? She comes off very Xena Warrior Princess so far.[/QUOTE]
Marvel made a huge splash with the Spider-Woman animated cartoon in the 1970s who's effects lasted well into the 80s.
When I finally got into comics, years later, I was amazed that she was not that popular.
Also...
When Loki tricked Storm into becoming the new Thor during the Asgard Wars...
1. Where they sleeping together? She was under his hypnotic power, so Loki not wanting to get busy with Storm, is the only hurdle that would have stopped him from kissing a girl with his brothers name, hammer and clothes.
2. Was she walking around with Mjolnir like it wasn't a big thing?
The Women Who Were Thor.
When I finally got into comics, years later, I was amazed that she was not that popular.
Also...
When Loki tricked Storm into becoming the new Thor during the Asgard Wars...
1. Where they sleeping together? She was under his hypnotic power, so Loki not wanting to get busy with Storm, is the only hurdle that would have stopped him from kissing a girl with his brothers name, hammer and clothes.
2. Was she walking around with Mjolnir like it wasn't a big thing?
The Women Who Were Thor.
Honestly, in rewatching the Lynda Carter series, I'm less than impressed with her portrayal. In the first season, the one set in WWII, she did a very good job capturing Wonder Woman's warm and compassionate side. But in the '70s-set second and third seasons, her performance changed and her Amazon identity was largely ignored, and the main emotions she conveyed either as Diana Prince or as Wonder Woman were impatience and sarcasm. And unfortunately there are a lot more episodes with that version of the character than the better, WWII-era version.
I think that's changing. Characters like Carol Danvers and Kamala Khan are proving very popular. And I think Marvel has a broader bench. Maybe they don't have a single female character who stands out as much as Wonder Woman, but DC hardly has any female characters other than Wonder Woman who have comparable star quality, and the only ones who come close are derivatives of male heroes such as Supergirl or Batgirl.
Come on. It's obvious she spent the first half of season one just learning how to act. The warm and compassionate side she portrays is mainly a matter of scrunching her face properly and getting the dialogue right. It's okay, not better. (The ep with Gargantua is a perfect example of this.)
The differences in the character spring from the goals of the networks that ran the show. ABC wanted a comic book show that had some campy elements of their previously canceled Batman, but didn't want to go the whole "sitcom" route. CBS wanted an action adventure show but didn't want the comic book and period costume elements, so they were gone halfway through season two. CBS wanted their own Bionic Woman, and by season three they had her.
I submit that Carter's performance improved over the second and third seasons because those were the seasons she was playing a person, not some writer's convoluted idea of a female superhero in the "Yes We Can!" forties.
I think its so someone can get (for example) a show/movie they want to make made, but they need the license to attract the network and/or audience. That's my theory when it came to older superhero stuff like the Incredible Hulk TV show or the Reb Brown Captain America movies. They took the names to interest people, but then told a story/stories they wanted to tell regardless of the source material.