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Wonder Woman (2017)

They released the cover for the Deluxe Junior Novel (whatever that is) accompanying the movie.
(They do different novels for different age groups now?
Can't kids read like proper people anymore? :shrug:)

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Junior novels have been a thing for a while. They had them when I last worked in bookstores 20 ( ack! ) years ago.
I used to get the junior novels back when I was a kid almost 20 years ago, so they've been around since at least the nineties. Pretty much all of the MCU movies have had Jr. novels, and The Force Awakens got one too.
 
Not all children read at the same level. I was reading at an adult level in grade school, but I doubt many of my peers were.
 
Junior novels have been a thing for a while. They had them when I last worked in bookstores 20 ( ack! ) years ago.

The more you know... I thought it was a fairly recent trend, tie-in fiction was rarely translated here, and the few bookstores that carried books in English only carried "regular" ones.
 
I've been watching reruns of WW on MeTV. While I am looking forward to the WW movie I think Lynda Carter's portrayal of Wonder Woman was great. Not to mention the fact that she was (and still is) a beautiful lady.
 
I was never impressed with the old WW show. Maybe its becuase I've only seen season 3 episodes and it had gone downhill by that point. But from what I saw the show was basically about a different one shot "man of the week" who would do most of the stuff, while WW would pop up usually once in the middle and once in the end of the episode to save the random guy. When Diana was the main person of the episode, you still mostly had lame shenanigans and Wonder Woman would only really show up for about 2 minutes total, unless she was doing something stupid like skateboarding.

Also, while I didn't expect Batman 66 action, WW's "super feats" were generally pathetic (lightly pushing criminals all of 10 feet, jumping off of things), and that's when when they weren't completely asinine (the various gimmick suits).

Don't get me wrong, I like a good goofy old show sometimes, and I think Lynda Carter would fit perfectly in a WW show of the era. But in the actual WW show itfeels like the actual title character was an afterthought, and they'd have rather just made a generic show about stopping criminals with Diana Prince, without powers/costume, as a supporting character.
 
I was never impressed with the old WW show. Maybe its becuase I've only seen season 3 episodes and it had gone downhill by that point. But from what I saw the show was basically about a different one shot "man of the week" who would do most of the stuff, while WW would pop up usually once in the middle and once in the end of the episode to save the random guy. When Diana was the main person of the episode, you still mostly had lame shenanigans and Wonder Woman would only really show up for about 2 minutes total, unless she was doing something stupid like skateboarding.

Also, while I didn't expect Batman 66 action, WW's "super feats" were generally pathetic (lightly pushing criminals all of 10 feet, jumping off of things), and that's when when they weren't completely asinine (the various gimmick suits).

Don't get me wrong, I like a good goofy old show sometimes, and I think Lynda Carter would fit perfectly in a WW show of the era. But in the actual WW show itfeels like the actual title character was an afterthought, and they'd have rather just made a generic show about stopping criminals with Diana Prince, without powers/costume, as a supporting character.

Well, I think it was typical of superhero shows of the time, in particular Incredible Hulk... probably mainly due to lack of effects budget...we didn't get a real "superhero" show like DC TV today

I've been watching reruns of WW on MeTV. While I am looking forward to the WW movie I think Lynda Carter's portrayal of Wonder Woman was great. Not to mention the fact that she was (and still is) a beautiful lady.

I think she had the perfect personality for Wonder Woman, especially in the 70's....wish she could've played Hippolyta (Diana's mom) in the movie...would've been a perfect cameo.
 
Well, I think it was typical of superhero shows of the time, in particular Incredible Hulk... probably mainly due to lack of effects budget...we didn't get a real "superhero" show like DC TV today

That's what it reminded me of, The Incredible Hulk (and that isn't a good thing). Still, Batman was out 9 years earlier and was a lot more impressive then WW. I mean, I wouldn't expect quite that level of campiness, but I did expect more then 2 minutes of WW an episode, and having Diana actually be the main character. At least with Hulk they had to go to the effort to paint a guy, and "David" banner seemed to be the focus character. Wonder Woman could have done a lot more then she did, and it wouldn't have broken the budget. Tossing around henchmen, lifting heavy things, breaking walls, etc are all things they could have done that would have been easy even at the time, and still not have been particularly expensive.

I didn't watch some WW episodes expecting anything like we'd get today. I just expected the title character to show up more, and be more of a central character. They could have done it, and I'm pretty sure budget wasn't the reason they didn't. Honestly, the 70s were a terrible time for superhero stuff. Batman, for as goofy and campy as it was, at least embraced its craziness. After that there were some half assed shows and TV movies (like Wonder Woman and the reb Brown Captain America movies), and stuff that was only very begrudgingly based on a comic (Incredible Hulk).

Anyway, its not as huge deal. I just always wonder why Wonder Woman gets any praise as a show. It certainly didn't portray Diana as a particularly impressive hero, in fact she was generally second fiddle to the "guy of the week". Hopefully the movie will do the character justice.
 
When I was a kid(80s), Wonder Woman reruns, Supergirl movie and She-Ra were the only things on TV where a girl kicked ass so much they named a show after her.

So yeah, it was hugely important, but I don't think anyone's claiming that the show was particularly great, however first season is much better than the latter ones...
 
When I was a kid(80s), Wonder Woman reruns, Supergirl movie and She-Ra were the only things on TV where a girl kicked ass so much they named a show after her.

So yeah, it was hugely important, but I don't think anyone's claiming that the show was particularly great, however first season is much better than the latter ones...

Yeah, I can see it being important in that respect. I guess I just expected a bit more, since it does have a reputation for being important when it comes to showing a female hero on TV. It didn't help that most of the episodes I saw went out of their way to make a one shot male character the hero, with WW just being around to help them once or twice in the episode.
 
Yeah, I can see it being important in that respect. I guess I just expected a bit more, since it does have a reputation for being important when it comes to showing a female hero on TV. It didn't help that most of the episodes I saw went out of their way to make a one shot male character the hero, with WW just being around to help them once or twice in the episode.
Well, the other aspect of the popularity is that many of the fans who laud it saw it either in their teenage years or younger, and back before Netflix, YouTube, or even a lot of cable channels, it was all over the place in reruns.

a lot of the love is nostalgia...and again, Lynda Carter's warm personality (like Christopher Reeves in the Superman movies) have created a place in the hearts of many.

I would liken it to people's love of Star Trek TOS...."objectively" it's terrible in a lot of ways, but without it, we wouldn't have the 50 years of OTHER Trek following it.

At the time, it was amazing...looking at it now... well, definitely much more wincing at what I see (or handwaving)
 
Lynda Carter was definitely the best part of the episodes I saw, although that kind of just made me wish she was actually more heavily involved in the episodes.
 
I would liken it to people's love of Star Trek TOS...."objectively" it's terrible in a lot of ways, but without it, we wouldn't have the 50 years of OTHER Trek following it.

At the time, it was amazing...looking at it now... well, definitely much more wincing at what I see (or handwaving)

I love the opinion of Fry from Futurama about the original Star Trek, "You know, Star Trek? Seventy-nine episodes? About thirty good ones?":lol:
 
Lynda Carter was definitely the best part of the episodes I saw, although that kind of just made me wish she was actually more heavily involved in the episodes.

Watch season one--the WW2 season--and stop there. Far superior to the remainder of the series in every conceivable way.

I love the opinion of Fry from Futurama about the original Star Trek, "You know, Star Trek? Seventy-nine episodes? About thirty good ones?":lol:

...sort of like Futurama...only it does not have that many good episodes. :D
 
I'm really surprised this movie has any kind of hype, the DC movies have been disasters so far and the trailers so far have been lesser than stellar.
 
I'm really surprised this movie has any kind of hype, the DC movies have been disasters so far and the trailers so far have been lesser than stellar.
Trailers for WW have been less than stellar? Umm.... maybe for a small minority? For many, I think it's gotten them even more excited for the movie than Suicide Squad's commercials did for it.



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Did we talk at all about the "radical" changes to Wonder Woman???? -- such as the placement of WW1. I find it interesting while other "radical" changes in other media (such as Raimi's Spierman having organic webshooters) have caused huge backlash, I don't seem to hear the same hate. There's mostly silence..maybe a few like me who find changes like that bold & creative moves, and certainly not hurt the final product.
 
Yeah, from what I've seen reactions to trailers have been largely positive, and the youtube like to dislike ratio is pretty high.

Did we talk at all about the "radical" changes to Wonder Woman???? -- such as the placement of WW1.

Wonder Woman doesn't really have a fixed "definitive" version of the character in the public consciousness, and most comic book readers are used to all kinds of radical changes when it comes to the character, especially the setting since Steve has crashed his plane on the island in all sorts of time periods ;)
 
...maybe a few like me who find changes like that bold & creative moves, and certainly not hurt the final product.

I'm not sure if changing the setting was so much about being bold and creative as avoiding comparisons to Captain America.

I just like that they changed it because WWI is a much rarer setting, I think, and for me more interesting for it.
 
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