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Wonder Woman (2017)

After Gal Gadot's performance and presence in BvS, I am most definitely looking forward to this movie. :luvlove:

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Will Wonder Woman have an Invisible Biplane in this era? I hope they've thunk this thing through....
 
Have they officially said how many different time periods the movie is going to be in? I've heard references to it being all set in WWI, and some saying it'll be WWI and the present.
 
Will Wonder Woman have an Invisible Biplane in this era? I hope they've thunk this thing through....

You're thinking on the wrong track, though. Amazon technology is supposed to be more advanced than ours. That's why, in the comics, Wonder Woman was able to have a supersonic stealth aircraft in 1942. So there's no reason to expect that the design should parallel the contemporary aircraft of Man's World.

(Also, the modern interpretation of Wonder Woman is that she can fly under her own power, which renders the invisible plane/jet redundant. Not sure if that applies to the DCEU version. I seem to recall seeing a trailer clip of her flying toward Doomsday, but it might've been a superstrong jump instead.)
 
I'm on the right track...in the '40s it was a propeller aircraft; in the jet age it got upgraded to a jet. Taking that design lineage backwards, in WWI she should be using a biplane...maybe a triplane.
 
Some set pictures have been released,
showing what appears to be some kind of confrontation between some Amazons and some soldiers. The recognizable characters in the pictures include Diana, her mother, and Steve Trevor. It looks like Diana and Steve are off by themselves, so those might be from a different scene.
I really like the look they appear to be going for with the Amazons.
Interesting...
Do Steve Trevor and some of his soldiers somehow end up in Themyscira? I think something like that happened at one point in the comics, but I'm not very familiar with Wonder Woman's history.
 
I'm on the right track...in the '40s it was a propeller aircraft; in the jet age it got upgraded to a jet. Taking that design lineage backwards, in WWI she should be using a biplane...maybe a triplane.

But the intent was that it was an advanced aircraft capable of supersonic flight and invisibility. The rendering reflected the limitations on the artist's understanding of aircraft design; he couldn't show a supersonic aircraft more realistically because they hadn't been invented yet, so he had no referent. It would be as misguided to expect a modern interpretation of Wonder Woman to be restricted by those 1940s limitations as it would be to insist that a modern interpretation of Starfleet like Enterprise or the 2009 movie should use the same 1960s-style switches and light bulbs and chronometer dials that TOS was limited to. Real-world limitations on execution should not be mistaken for in-story limitations.
 
Sticking to my Bat-Guns here...supersonic, invisible bi/tri-plane or nothing. Previous incarnations have reflected aircraft of their era, this one should be no different.

Besides...if it's invisible, how could we tell? I suppose if she needs Etta to hand-start it by swinging the invisible propeller....
 
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In Amazons Attack... (the mythos was upside down, so at this point in history invisible Planes were not Amazon tech.) wouldn't it have been fun to see thousands of Invisible planes attacking America?
 
Sticking to my Bat-Guns here...supersonic, invisible bi/tri-plane or nothing. Previous incarnations have reflected aircraft of their era, this one should be no different.

Then by that logic, Gal Gadot should be dressed in a Wonder Woman costume based on female bathing garment fashions of the late 1910s. And the movie should be silent and filmed in black and white.
 
You're thinking on the wrong track, though. Amazon technology is supposed to be more advanced than ours. That's why, in the comics, Wonder Woman was able to have a supersonic stealth aircraft in 1942. So there's no reason to expect that the design should parallel the contemporary aircraft of Man's World.

(Also, the modern interpretation of Wonder Woman is that she can fly under her own power, which renders the invisible plane/jet redundant. Not sure if that applies to the DCEU version. I seem to recall seeing a trailer clip of her flying toward Doomsday, but it might've been a superstrong jump instead.)

Yes, they have advanced invisible jet airplanes...and swords and horses.

I don't like mixing primitive aesthetic with advanced magic science.

Where are their invisible jeeps & rifles? Where are their oil refineries that produce the jet fuel? Where is their heavy industry that produces advanced alloys? Are there Amazon welders & flight computer technicians? It's the same reason Thor's world is so silly to me. Sure, the tech is so advanced it's like magic. And he uses a hammer. A magic science hammer. The clumsiest most impractical possible form for an advanced weapon to take. I don't like the idea of trying to turn magic themed heroes into aliens with advanced technology.
 
I've never cared for the invisible plane, so I'm hoping it's not in the DCEU.
Interesting...
Do Steve Trevor and some of his soldiers somehow end up in Themyscira? I think something like that happened at one point in the comics, but I'm not very familiar with Wonder Woman's history.
That's what it certainly looks like to me, although I guess it could be the other way around, with the Amazons in Man's World. I'm wondering where all of this takes place in the Diana/Steve relationship. The fact that she's in the generic Amazon armor, and on Themyscira makes me wonder if this is their first meeting. If so, I don't see the other soldiers surviving much longer.
EDIT: Going back to the whole diversity debate, according to the description on Wikipedia, the post-Crisis Amazons were "the reincarnated souls of women slain by men throughout pre-history". There's no reason that all of those souls had to have come from white women.
 
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Steve Trevor's plane crashed and he washed up on Paradise Island. Diana nursed him back to health and took him back to the outside world. This is the character's history.
 
Sticking to my Bat-Guns here...supersonic, invisible bi/tri-plane or nothing. Previous incarnations have reflected aircraft of their era, this one should be no different.

Besides...if it's invisible, how could we tell? I suppose if she needs Etta to hand-start it by swinging the invisible propeller....
Could be a mono plane.

Maybe Diana can dogfight with Hans Von Hammer
 
Where are their invisible jeeps & rifles? Where are their oil refineries that produce the jet fuel? Where is their heavy industry that produces advanced alloys? Are there Amazon welders & flight computer technicians? It's the same reason Thor's world is so silly to me. Sure, the tech is so advanced it's like magic. And he uses a hammer. A magic science hammer. The clumsiest most impractical possible form for an advanced weapon to take. I don't like the idea of trying to turn magic themed heroes into aliens with advanced technology.

Well, for what it's worth, William Moulton Marston and H.G. Peter portrayed the Amazons as a technologically advanced civilization from the start, so that's not something that later creators have accreted onto it. I'm not sure if the same goes for Thor. I think the comics portrayed the Asgardians as actual Norse gods all along, and the MCU retconned them as aliens mistaken for gods. But I'm not sure.



EDIT: Going back to the whole diversity debate, according to the description on Wikipedia, the post-Crisis Amazons were "the reincarnated souls of women slain by men throughout pre-history". There's no reason that all of those souls had to have come from white women.

Indeed, and the post-Crisis Amazon characters did include women of color, most notably Philippus.
 
I think they should ditch the silly plane and give her a giant eagle to ride. Much more appropriate for a Classical goddess.
 
Will they call her Wonder Woman in this movie?

Because apparently Lex Luthor gave Wonder Woman her name.

When Batman and Wonder Woman learn of the ‘metahumans’ – the DC term for superhumans – it’s via a Flash drive (ahem) pilfered from LexCorp. Jesse Eisenberg’s villain has done all the research for them, and in the process, inadvertently christened them with their superhero alter egos.

“I know that's sacrilege, but I kind of love it,” says Zack Snyder. “When you think about it, Wonder Woman would not have gotten her name from anyone other than someone who was trying to file her somewhere. You can imagine it as a naming convention. Flash feels like the same thing. Aquaman and Cyborg also. It's not like they went down a giant rabbit hole with the naming convention...”
Read more here.
 
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