Wiped Episode Discoveries
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The horror...the horror...
I like telesnaps. I don't like animation.
There's no reason both can't be included to give you the choice.
There's a pretty good reason: cost. Why duplicate the effort? Telesnap recons have only been included where animation was too expensive, or where they already existed before the animation (eg Power of the Daleks, Tenth Planet, Ice Warriors).
Plus a lot of missing episodes don't have telesnaps - most of the missing season three stories for example.
If animation is too expensive and telesnaps are not available, I'd take comicbook-style drawn representations of telesnaps in preference to audio on its own. I also don't like audio description used as filler. Perhaps I have a poor imagination but the stories were originally intended for a visual medium.
Audio stories can work when they're made for the format, and honestly I tend to like well done audio books too, but taking dialogue from a tv show and trying to turn it into an audio story by narrating actions really just doesn't work for me without some kind of visual representation like the telesnaps.
Amazingly enough, I agree with kirk55555. Its a very tricky situation to make an audio story out of a lost one - the only one that kinda did the trick, for me, was the Space Pirates, which is already a bad story, but the guy who did it (I think over the WhoFlix fan-edits listings) edited the story down to its acceptable format and it works, I think.
But even then, I'm not gonna spend on a telesnap. They're not, in my mind, an acceptable alternative. Its fine for hardcore fans, because we have to know every little thing that's ever been transmitted of our beloved show, but its not an option that I'm willing to shell out money for. Especially when Loose Cannon's option has always been available. For free.
But even then, I'm not gonna spend on a telesnap. They're not, in my mind, an acceptable alternative. Its fine for hardcore fans, because we have to know every little thing that's ever been transmitted of our beloved show, but its not an option that I'm willing to shell out money for. Especially when Loose Cannon's option has always been available. For free.
I'm still ticked off that they put absolutely zero effort into the telesnap DVD reconstructions of "The Underwater Menace" parts 1 & 4. They didn't even both to incorporate the small handful of surviving censor clips from the episodes. And they were really hard to follow during some scenes. Even if they don't have that many photos, it would help if they would at least toggle back & forth between them to more clearly identify who is speaking. Compare that to "The Web of Fear, Part 3," where, after a few minutes, I was so engrossed in the story that I completely forgot that I was watching a reconstruction.
Yes, a bizarre decision from whoever commissioned it from BBC Worldwide. The prodicer (I think it was John Kelly) was told not to include full titles or any moving footage. It had to be a simple slideshow.
The Loose Cannon recon is excellent, and that was made before Episode 2 was recovered. A new recon, with a whole extra episode from which to draw material, should have been at least as good. A real shame.
Even then, CHANGE THE SLIDES MORE OFTEN, WILL YA!!!!
On the eve of the Jodie Whittaker era, Phillip Morris pops back up on The One Show - dressed as Indiana Jones, no less - to unveil a recovered episode of Morecambe and Wise (not the one being reconstructed in a lab), as well as announce the return of episodes of Steptoe and Son (now completing the entire 60's b&w run of the show), Basil Brush (featuring a performance by the Kinks), and The Rag Trade to be presented at next month's BFI 'Missing: Believed Wiped' event. And Paul Venezis has chimed in that there are more finds the BBC will be announcing later.
As he said he wouldn't reveal his findings until the end of his global search (which according to him has included Africa, the Middle East, Singapore, Hong Kong), I think we can definitely say the search is at last over - and whatever other episodes of DW he's found will be announced in the not-too-distant future.
As he said he wouldn't reveal his findings until the end of his global search (which according to him has included Africa, the Middle East, Singapore, Hong Kong), I think we can definitely say the search is at last over - and whatever other episodes of DW he's found will be announced in the not-too-distant future.
I just hope we get more animated releases sooner, rather than later. I don't want to wait until 2024 until I get to see Dalek Masterplan completed.
The Rag Trade is from season three, which is entirely missing, but hasn't been viewed and played yet. There are two M&W, 5 and 7, on top of the grungy print of 1 that is being put together, and an incomplete copy of 6. The Steptoe existed, but only as a home vt recording made by Galton&Simpson, not a telerecording, so this will be a lot clearer.
Apparently the M&Ws have chomadots that should be good enough to allow for colour restoration.
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Quite by accident it seems (or WAS it??), BFI let slip that a brand new animated DW missing episode will be unveiled at their 'Missing: Believed Wiped' event on December 15.
It's likely to be an episode from Macra Terror or Wheel in Space, which were both reported to be in the works months ago, but haven't been officially confirmed.
Just one episode and not all of the episodes needed to complete the serial? That seems odd.
Could just be a miswording at this point. That sort of thing happens.
The article is talking about a special showing at a live event, so maybe they're showing one episode as a preview of the full serial release to come later.
Ah, that would make more sense.
Crossing my fingers for The Wheel in Space. A classic base under siege story back when the Cybermen were still interesting. Plus, it's Zoe's introduction.
Crossing my fingers for The Wheel in Space. A classic base under siege story back when the Cybermen were still interesting. Plus, it's Zoe's introduction.
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