WIP NX - 5150-A

[erifah]

I was a-doodlin' today. I would normally process this picture of my concept starship though Photoshop & such, but my regular 'puter is fried.

I had the idea of putting the impulse engines at the end of the warp nacelles - two stacked nozzles in a housing on the end of each nacelle.

I'm not sure how I want the secondary hull at the very rear to look, I'm still doodling.

(I'd give my left nut to have this thing critiqued by Andy Probert. "OMG, Andy Probert picked apart my design! He was unmerciful! How cool is THAT?!?!?!?!!!")

Any thoughts?

NX 5150-A

 

[RoJoHen]

My first thought: the neck is REALLY LONG!

I'd either shorten the neck, or maybe lower the saucer, because right now it looks like it's straining to see something on a very high shelf.

 

[Lord_Schtupp]

Well I like it esp the profile, so much so that I registered at this board just so I could post in this thread.

I really like the flowing line of the top. I dont think the neck is too long it has a pretty thick cross section so structurally its strong. I thought Rejohen comment about it looking over a high shelf funny, maybe reduce a LITTLE bit.

Side view: Killer. Maybe lengthen warp engines a tad to extend out the back a just little bit more, like when roddenberry wanted probart to do to the initial version of the 1701-D.

Front view: make Warp nacelles tilt out to match bottom curve of hull. Round off the cross section of warps to oval. Cant have the warps directly behind saucer so maybe move those outboard til they clear.

Top View: If you where to widen the secondary hull kinda like the Ralph McQuarrie TMP Enterprise concepts (but keep close to the same profile), you know make it more delta shaped, it would solve the warp clearance problem and give the Secondary hull more mass and balance the design better.

I looked at your Atlantis design, its very nice but conventional. I think you should put all effort into this design for now. Its Trek but unconventional. I would really like to see a nice 3- or 5-view of it.

 

[shapeshifter]

Agreed about the nacelles, they need softening.

Other wise, very nice.

 

[erifah]

Lord_Schtupp said:...If you where to widen the secondary hull kinda like the Ralph McQuarrie TMP Enterprise concepts (but keep close to the same profile), you know make it more delta shaped, it would solve the warp clearance problem and give the Secondary hull more mass and balance the design better...

Actually, I think going the McQuarrie direction would solve a LOT of problems! As I write this, I'm thinking it through... the McQuarrie wedge, but with the softer lines of the lifting-body airplane concepts... this would solve the problem of how to blend the nacelle struts visually seamlessly into the body!

Thank you for your insights!

 

[Lord_Schtupp]

Yea exactly my line of thought, like the HL-10 but a little flatter with the profile you have going. It would effectivly shorten the neck a little bit if blended in just right.

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/images/content/108440main_HL-10_330.jpg

If you are looking for a name, I would suggest the USS Cygnus.

Good luck - I think it's unique and has great potential! Id love to build a model of it when done.


Edit: Im guessing that since Im a noob here it wont display my picture until I reach a certain number of posts?

 

[Rattrap]

Im guessing that since Im a noob here it wont display my picture until I reach a certain number of posts?

You are correct, so I'll put it up for you.

Nice work, and a little reminiscent of Probert's earliest sketches of the 1701-D.

 

[Lord_Schtupp]

Rattrap said:
Im guessing that since Im a noob here it wont display my picture until I reach a certain number of posts?

You are correct, so I'll put it up for you.

Nice work, and a little reminiscent of Probert's earliest sketches of the 1701-D.

Thats cool but I wanted to post the nasa pic of the HL-10 lifting body, but Im sure everybody here knows what that looks like (Six Million Dollar Man series opening sequence: A man barely alive, we can rebuild him yadda yadda...)

To me this looks a little more Syd Mead-ish than Probert-ian.

 

[Rattrap]

Ah...

I sit corrected. Here they are together-

 

[erifah]

UPDATED WIP NX - 5150-A

OK, the 'puter is repaired, and I've been exploring the shapes of the NX-5150-A with Paint Shop & Photoshop.

She's really in a rough & clunky state right now, but I'm seeing where she leads me.

web page

 

[Number_6]

Re: UPDATED WIP NX - 5150-A

So is this the U.S.S. Van Halen?

 

[Wingsley]

Re: UPDATED WIP NX - 5150-A

No, it's the Van Hagar.

 

[AmbassadorKosh]

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Wingsley said:
No, it's the Van Hagar.

Bite your tongue Wingsley, I spent many a weekend in high school listening to Van Halen and partying. Don't spoil good memories of good times with Sammy Hagar.

 

[Number_6]

Re: UPDATED WIP NX - 5150-A

AmbassadorKosh said:

Wingsley said:
No, it's the Van Hagar.

Bite your tongue Wingsley, I spent many a weekend in high school listening to Van Halen and partying. Don't spoil good memories of good times with Sammy Hagar.

Yes, the man who gave us "Three Lock Box" and "I Can't Drive 55."

I'll take David Lee Roth in his prime any day. Sorry.

 

[Wingsley]

Re: UPDATED WIP NX - 5150-A

Aw, geeez....

You guys are party poopers.

 

[B.J.]

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I'll take either of them over "that guy from Extreme". My wife & I saw a Van Halen concert when that guy was with the band. We kept singing "one of these things is not like the others"!

erifah: Nice ship, kinda gives me a 50s design vibe for some reason. I think it's the large nacelle, looks a bit like the tailfins on 50s cars.

 

[Probert]

erifah said:
I was a-doodlin' today.

I had the idea of putting the impulse engines at the end of the warp nacelles.

I'm still doodling.

(I'd give my left nut to have this thing critiqued by Andy Probert. )

Any thoughts?

NX 5150-A

First of all, please be comforted, knowing you may retain all body parts. Secondly, OMGosh, I think I'm being channeled. Take a look at this sketch I did back in '05:

OverUnder

But back to YOUR sketch (SIDE view), the nacelle does seem a bit sharp at the top. Consider starting a curve at it's (rear) base, bringing the trailing edge into a vertical line. This would look better (to me) and it provides a perpendicular face for your impulse engines at the same time.

As for impulse engines mounted in the aft surface of a warp engine, review the long-range shuttle sled in ST:TMP.

From a REAR view, consider slanting your warp engines outward to match and continue the curve of your pylons.

From a TOP view, consider eliminating the flat edge at the back of your engineering hull, and let the pilons curve into each other. You should see, in the rear view, that they're already doing that.

From the SIDE, it looks like you want to bring something, some piece, down from the bridge all the way to the (typically-placed) engineering hanger deck. Why don't you continue to explore that?

Sorry I had to be so unmerciful.

Andrew-

 

[Kaiser]

Wow he actaully came i bet that feels awsome

 

[erifah]

Probert said:

erifah said:
I was a-doodlin' today.

I had the idea of putting the impulse engines at the end of the warp nacelles.

I'm still doodling.

(I'd give my left nut to have this thing critiqued by Andy Probert. )

Any thoughts?

NX 5150-A

First of all, please be comforted, knowing you may retain all body parts. Secondly, OMGosh, I think I'm being channeled. Take a look at this sketch I did back in '05:

OverUnder

But back to YOUR sketch (SIDE view), the nacelle does seem a bit sharp at the top. Consider starting a curve at it's (rear) base, bringing the trailing edge into a vertical line. This would look better (to me) and it provides a perpendicular face for your impulse engines at the same time.

As for impulse engines mounted in the aft surface of a warp engine, review the long-range shuttle sled in ST:TMP.

From a REAR view, consider slanting your warp engines outward to match and continue the curve of your pylons.

From a TOP view, consider eliminating the flat edge at the back of your engineering hull, and let the pilons curve into each other. You should see, in the rear view, that they're already doing that.

From the SIDE, it looks like you want to bring something, some piece, down from the bridge all the way to the (typically-placed) engineering hanger deck. Why don't you continue to explore that?

Sorry I had to be so unmerciful.

Andrew-

Mr. Probert?

I'M NOT WORTHY I'M NOT WORTHY I'M NOT WORTHY!!!!!

 

[erifah]

Probert said:...Secondly, OMGosh, I think I'm being channeled. Take a look at this sketch I did back in '05:

OverUnder

Andrew-

What's a major "wow" for me is the fact that the only reason I added the lower curve & dome on the saucer, is that I figured it's kinda expected for Star Trek saucers. I originally doodled it as a flat lower saucer, like YOUR sketch!