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Windows 8??

I never had major problems with Vista, but I recently updated to Win7 and it's been running like a dream.

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It's more user friendly. It gets rid of all that "jibberish" people don't understand lol.

So, now the BSOD is completely useless? That's always been a major problem with Windows - it gives completely useless error messages that don't mean anything and can't help you resolve the problem.
 
It's more user friendly. It gets rid of all that "jibberish" people don't understand lol.

So, now the BSOD is completely useless? That's always been a major problem with Windows - it gives completely useless error messages that don't mean anything and can't help you resolve the problem.

Actually, the BSOD gave lots of information. You then went onto the internet and looked up the error message. Microsoft apparently got wise to this and (if the image is accurate above) incorporated it into the new BSOD.
 
We all laughed at the new "blue screen of Death" and how it's been dumbed down

How has it been changed?


It's more user friendly. It gets rid of all that "jibberish" people don't understand lol.



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Hm, that sad smilie reminds me of an older computer system/OS which would do something similar in case of crashes but I can't quite put my finger on which one it is. Maybe I'm thinking of the happy and sad Mac of the old Macs?

That said, they could have put a bit more effort into the graphic, just a text-based smilie? That's not much. ;)

The problem with some of the error codes in Windows was that they weren't unique and you would sometimes get different errors for the same code. Have they retired the dumpfile, too? Because I doubt you'd get very far by just searching for "system service exception".
 
You mean this thing? I've seen it in a BSOD screensaver that used to have some time ago, and I thought it looks pretty nice. It brings some memories of the days of low resolution monochrome graphics. But it's still terribly uninformative.
 
It looks nice. Does the standard desktop interface look any different?
 
It's like a fancier Windows 7 Aero theme


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The "Apps" menu





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Weather App from the Start Menu. The background is interactive.



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I have a laptop with Win7 64bit and hardly anything works properly with it. Since it is not even 6 months old it would be stupid to upgrade (I don't like upgrading anyway. I would rather own a full version). Even if I was considering, I would wait until the new OS came out with new software. But if Microshaft was coming out with a new OS every 2 years, how does that give software companies time to come up with up to date software?
 
Windows 8 looks pretty. And to be honest... my computer hasn't crashed once in the year that I've had Windows 7. Windows ME used to crash every time I opened a program.
 
Windows ME? What is that? I don't see why would anyone use Windows ME instead of Windows 2000. Or Windows instead of Debian Potato for that matter.
 
Windows Millenium Edition, Microsoft's ill-fated and unneeded OS. People usually don't choose Windows OSes, they come with the computer they buy. That's how people ended up with the thing.
As for Linux, I don't think any version of Debian is really suitable for beginners and while I'm quite happy with my Ubuntu system, the hardware support/driver issue will never go away as long as we don't live in an Open Source world. So, many people will face problems when switching. And that's not even touching on the problem of the lack of certain specific software (e.g. current games).
 
I wasn't serious about Debian Potato. It was pretty frustrating at the time, especially when it came to web browsers. The Mozilla browser that it shipped with crashed all the time, and Netscape was crap, and online communities were particularly unhelpful by telling you to avoid using any GUI apps, so it took me some time to realize there was a GUI for dial-up.

I would pick it over Windows ME any time though - the only good thing about Windows ME was that it had 2000's UI niceties (icons, sidebars), but it was a disaster. The DOS version that it shipped with was also a complete crap, so the only reason I might want to use it over 2000 was also gone. As for the UI niceties, I preferred KDE 2. :D

To be honest, I'd pick KDE 2 and 1 over Windows 8, KDE 4, the latest Gnome, or whatever they are making these days... There was something weirdly comforting and eerie about hand-drawn paletted bitmap icons over a nice simplistic old-school GUI. I prefer this over this. The latter looks like an UI from a film lacking any realism.
 
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I'm looking forward to it. I'd like to see the standard desktop environment. So far, I think all I've seen is the tablet based touch interface they'll use. I want to see what I'll be using on my desktop.

From everything I've seen and read, Windows 8's desktop is going to be very close to that of Windows 7's... Kind of like the difference between 95 and 98. Minor changes, a little sleeker looking.


It's amazing how entrenched XP became. It didn't really help that a lot of people decided to skip Vista or downgrade from it. For many, Windows 7 was the first upgrade in possibly 8-9 years. I upgraded to Vista in 2007 and Windows 7 in 2011.

In fairness to Microsoft, they really had very ambitious plans for Longhorn. Had they come to fruition, it would have put MS way ahead of every other player. But to their credit, they decided not to issue a premature release... That is, until they needed the cash and decided to unleash Vista.

At least they learned their lesson there. Windows 7 is much better, in my opinion.

It is better because it's complete (what a novel idea for Redmond, eh?). Windows Vista is v6.0 and Windows 7 is v6.1... There weren't a lot of changes besides rebranding the big-fixed version, and introducing the new skin.

I just got 7 a few months ago, so I'll be damned if I'm gonna be using 8 anytime soon. I imagine it will just come with the next computer I buy, same as my "upgrade" to 7. :lol:

Wish I could say the same. MS has a bad habit of making sure the latest Internet Exploder version won't run on older systems. IE 10 currently runs only on Windows 8 previews, making it impossible for web developers (like me) to get ahead of the game without being a part of their Beta team. As soon as W8 hits the market, I have to get a copy.

Thank goodness, though, I'll only need to run it in a VM on my Mac.
 
To be honest, I'd pick KDE 2 and 1 over Windows 8, KDE 4, the latest Gnome, or whatever they are making these days... There was something weirdly comforting and eerie about hand-drawn paletted bitmap icons over a nice simplistic old-school GUI. I prefer this over this. The latter looks like an UI from a film lacking any realism.

I agree that the new Windows 8 start screen looks ugly. At least you can change the hideous background colour in the beta version but it still lacks finesse. It should probably be a bit more transparent. Besides, the sideways scrollbar looks like it came out of KDE 2 ;) but I'm sure they'll polish it some more.
I also think that Ubuntu's Unity theme is the superior solution because it allows you to have buttons for touchscreen devices and a normal desktop environment at the same time (and with 4 desktops to boot). I assume that one can only run one app at a time in the Metro environment.
As for KDE and older GUIs, I grew tired of grey bricks around 2000 and I really like how shiny most of the newer Linux versions look, even those with light-weight desktop environments.
 
I have a laptop with Win7 64bit and hardly anything works properly with it. Since it is not even 6 months old it would be stupid to upgrade (I don't like upgrading anyway. I would rather own a full version). Even if I was considering, I would wait until the new OS came out with new software. But if Microshaft was coming out with a new OS every 2 years, how does that give software companies time to come up with up to date software?

That's odd. I just bought what is admittedly a bargain basement laptop, and it runs Win7 64bit flawlessly.

I turn off Aero, though, and use the "Windows Classic" theme. I have no need for all the silly bells and whistles.
 
The Vista rollout was completely botched. It got a bad reputation because it didn't have all the kinks worked out, and Microsoft allowed systems that couldn't run it well to be labeled "Vista Capable." Gave most people the impression that it was a slow, buggy, bloated mess.

The only worthwhile thing about Vista was the Bubbles screensaver.
 
I'll probably stick with Win7 as long as possible, or shift over to Linux Mint. If MS insists on forcing that craptacular 'Metro' UI on everyone... they've lost me.

(Yes, I know/understand that you can switch immediately to the "regular" desktop through that play-school big-tiled Metro, but still... I shouldn't HAVE to do so. *gag*)

Cheers,
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