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Will We Ever See The 1990s Star Trek Aesthetic Again? Or Hear that “humm” Sound When No One Speaks?
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Having used it, I can tell you it is practical and the kind of interfaces used in Picard work really well. And in Star Trek, you don't feel a thing unless enemies are shooting you. It's nothing like driving a car.
Irrelevant? Although modern Trek uses holographic HUDs for everything from viewscreens to space suits. Unlike the person on the street, these people would have been especially trained to use it at SFA.
Let's keep the years the same but change the century to make the difference more relatable:
2399 should be as much like 2370 as 1999 was like 1970.
2399 should be as much like 2370 as 1999 was like 1970.
I've heard various complaints about the difficulties that characters would have in using holographic interfaces.
I assume those people have forgotten that in Star Trek a "hologram" can be perfectly solid and tangible.
So what we're really left with is fully customisable, floating control panels. Sounds Ok to me!
I assume those people have forgotten that in Star Trek a "hologram" can be perfectly solid and tangible.
So what we're really left with is fully customisable, floating control panels. Sounds Ok to me!
I think the other aspect that is lost is that Rios' ship is private. How he uses it doesn't mean everyone does it the same way.
'Kay. Whether you buy it or not, doesn't change the fact that those who were there at the time experienced it.
Compare how touchscreens worked in the 90s Trek with what you can do with touchscreens today. TNG's computers were basically just bog standard computers with buttons in the screens. And that is laughably primitive compared to what one can do with their tablet today.
That doesn't explain carrying a pad around the ship to deliver it to someone instead of just e-mailing it to them. Or having a desk cluttered with multiple pads. Or the worse, an entire crate filled with something like two dozen pads that got lugged everywhere in a Voyager episode.
Wut? That wasn't how they explained the Klingons. Oh, right, you haven't watched Enterprise, have you? Then I guess you wouldn't know that.
I'm glad Discovery got out of the 23rd Century before it had a chance to explain the difference in the Klingons. The way they bent over backwards during the second season with changing things from the first season, it would've been inevitable if they'd stayed there.
Strange New Worlds will probably explain it... because I think SNW is designed to make old-schoolers happy (good luck with that!) and to be more in-line with what they think the 23rd Century should be.
Strange New Worlds will probably explain it... because I think SNW is designed to make old-schoolers happy (good luck with that!) and to be more in-line with what they think the 23rd Century should be.
They could still tackle it if Klingons show up in the 32nd century...
In the 32nd Century, they'll sum it up in one or two sentences. In the 23rd, it would've been one or two episodes as part of a larger overall major arc. I'll take the lesser of two evils.
Nice. Things do come back in style..,
It's not about intangibility. Try using an interface that is suspended near your face for any length of time. Some of the holo-controls we've seen would be hell on your muscles to use for more than a minute.
...perhaps they also utilize a smart-forcefield which supports your arms without influencing your movements?
Since holograms in Star Trek have at times been described as "photons and forcefields" I would say that's a natural extension of the tech...perhaps they also utilize a smart-forcefield which supports your arms without influencing your movements?
I would imagine that the technology as presented onscreen has a lot of adaptability to it. There isn't just one way to utilize it.
With all the resources they threw at it, they could at least have made their show look like something made in 2021. You know, instead of amateur CG designs shot like a videogame?
Honestly, this "it's all these years later" comeback which seems to be the go-to for defenders of STD works out as "It's okay that it looks like crap, don't you realize things are supposed to look like crap now?" And that's not actually true.
There’s a part of me that wants to see La Sirena drifting by an anomaly, where Picard is forced to enter it with something like the pusher plate Orion...with interiors like that of a Minuteman missile silo. Space is full of radiation. Something that low tech is what can take the most abuse...
Can you point me to a single source that would back up this claim of anyone complaining that TNG used TMP main score? Or are you saying anecdotally you heard some friends complain about it? I was alive when TNG aired, I didn’t watch it, but I know people who did. I’ve heard about people complaining the theme *wasnt* used for Wrath of Khan. But this idea that fans complained when one of the greatest themes ever written was used for TNG...it doesn’t make any sense.
“instead of just emailing it to them” Again. You could easily explain that. Christ man this is Star Trek. A little imagination!
And no, I haven’t watched Enterprise. I was referring to the episode “Trials & Tribulations”.
Please do. But, it still looks less advanced.
And use imagination? This is a thread all about returning to past interpretations of future technology. That is not imaginative.
So it looks like we have another "TNG is how Star Trek is supposed to be, look, and sound" thing going on. TNG is not the Alpha or Omega of Star Trek. It's the third of a dozen Star Trek TV series. Like all the others it is a product of its time and looks like it. For that matter, its look was widely mocked even when it was on the air as being like a Holiday Inn or Howard Johnson's in space. Also, in 1987, when TNG premiered, yes, those of us who saw TMP in 1979 noticed that it was using Jerry Goldsmith's TMP music.
There were complaints, mostly stemming from the fact that up until then, each movie had its own theme tune, even the two scored by James Horner each had a separate theme, and because of this everyone felt TNG should have had its own theme tune instead of just copying one from a movie released eight years prior, with some complaining that the new show was being lazy and unambitious right out of the gate. Which wasn't actually the case since they had actually come up with a new title theme for TNG, which can be heard as background music in several season 1 episodes and is listed on the TNG soundtrack as "Picard's Theme" just for some reason decided at the last minute to refurbish the TMP theme.
Truth is people complained about the themes for all the spin-offs. DS9 and Voyager's theme's got flack for not including the Alexander Courage Fanfare, and then of course we all know how Faith of the Heart was received with Enterprise.
Imagination and Star Trek are two terms that rarely go together. Indeed, in this case it was a distinct lack of imagination that resulted in the computer pads being used in the manner in which they were, in that everyone just viewed them as electronic clipboards rather than as portable computers.
I don't mind the Inquiry-class design but it didn't help that the first time we saw it was as a cut-and-paste armada with no hull registries or other visible writing. A little hull decoration can go a long way in Star Trek and they dropped the ball on doing that.
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