Will they go back to primeTrek after nuTrek finishes?.

[Squiggy]

Futurama,

Because of Adult Swim ratings and DVD sales.

Family Guy, revived from cancellation.

Because of DVD sales.

BSG revived by reboot.

Aside from the names of the characters and the design of Galactica, it was a different show...and as mentioned above when it wasn't worth it to produce it was canceled.

But Futurama and Family Guy weren't revived out of charity to Groening or McFarlane. They were making money. The n

TNG - the most popular series of the Berman/Moore/Branga era bombed in terms of remastered DVD sales. The demand isn't there which means the money isn't there which means the networks won't be there.

 

[Cyke101]

I think it's worth mentioning that while most revivals aim to bring back cast members, TNG was unique in that it had no one from its predecessor show returning as primary cast. Doctor Who in 2005 did the same thing.

Some revivals like WKRP in Cincinatti, Perry Mason, 24, and Arrested Development, brought back their stars. TNG, even though it was set in the same timeline and explicitly connected to TOS, was, for all intents and purposes, a reboot on its own, taking the same concepts as TOS and bringing them to modern day. In that sense, TNG is kind of like a hybrid revival/reboot.

 

[JWPlatt]

And no one was watching [Enterprise].

Hyperbole to win the point? C'mon - My wife and I were watching it.

 

[Cyke101]

And no one was watching [Enterprise].

Hyperbole to win the point? C'mon - My wife and I were watching it.

But your wife and yourself -- and I'm sure many others -- were not enough to prevent its cancellation due to low ratings.

Once cancellation comes, there really is no difference between "no one" and "few." Literal phrasing and exaggerated hyperbole likewise wouldn't matter in that case.

 

[Makarov]

Aside from the names of the characters and the design of Galactica, it was a different show...and as mentioned above when it wasn't worth it to produce it was canceled.

So the next Trek TV show will probably be significantly different. But it could still be prime or a brand new timeline.

Again you bring up DVD sales and ratings, and by that logic the movie franchise should have been cancelled forever after Nemesis.

 

[BillJ]

Aside from the names of the characters and the design of Galactica, it was a different show...and as mentioned above when it wasn't worth it to produce it was canceled.

So the next Trek TV show will probably be significantly different. But it could still be prime or a brand new timeline.

Again you bring up DVD sales and ratings, and by that logic the movie franchise should have been cancelled forever after Nemesis.

Forever? Doubtful. But the TNG movie franchise was cancelled and shows no signs of coming back.

 

[Makarov]

I don't think anyone expects TNG to return in it's former self, but there's no telling what elements of past shows they will choose to use in the future. If the new movies aren't an example that dead things can be rebooted/reinvented I don't know what is..

 

[BillJ]

I don't think anyone expects TNG to return in it's former self, but there's no telling what elements of past shows they will choose to use in the future. If the new movies aren't an example that dead things can be rebooted/reinvented I don't know what is..

The original Star Trek wasn't exactly dead when Paramount pushed it aside for TNG on the big screen.

 

[Ithekro]

Pabst Blue Ribbon beer and they all call it PBR.

Note for future reference: Vietnam navy veterans that served in Riverine Divisions on the rivers and canals of South Vietnam in the late 1960s up to 1970 also drink Pabst Blue Ribbon beer and they call it PBR. They do this for two reasons. One, that was about the only beer they could get in Vietnam that wasn't local, and PBR is the naval designation of the boats they used and served on, The Patrol Boat, River (PBR).

 

[Starborn Dragon]

I would love to see something Star Trek that is very new, but with still the same philosophy intact.

 

[TRON JA307020]

Aside from TNG, name one.

Futurama, Family Guy, revived from cancellation. BSG revived by reboot.

Futurama and Family Guy are animated, and would have a much smaller budget.

BSG was praised by critics, but, unfortunately it wasn't successful, it only hung around as long it did, because SyFy Channel had hope the good critical acclaim would bring viewers, but, it never did, and they finally had to cancel it after S4, when it fell below 1 million viewers

Colombo,leave it to beaver,the munsters(tv movies in the 80s), dallas. All total revivals not reboots.

 

[Makarov]

I don't think anyone expects TNG to return in it's former self, but there's no telling what elements of past shows they will choose to use in the future. If the new movies aren't an example that dead things can be rebooted/reinvented I don't know what is..

The original Star Trek wasn't exactly dead when Paramount pushed it aside for TNG on the big screen.

Didn't an earlier movie Final Frontier flop at the box office and have low critics rating like Nemesis did? In any case TOS movies & show were as dead as TNG is now before Abrams movies brought it back.

 

[Cyke101]

Futurama, Family Guy, revived from cancellation. BSG revived by reboot.

Futurama and Family Guy are animated, and would have a much smaller budget.

BSG was praised by critics, but, unfortunately it wasn't successful, it only hung around as long it did, because SyFy Channel had hope the good critical acclaim would bring viewers, but, it never did, and they finally had to cancel it after S4, when it fell below 1 million viewers

Colombo,leave it to beaver,the munsters(tv movies in the 80s), dallas. All total revivals not reboots.

This is off topic, but ugh at Leave it to Beaver. I'm pretty certain it was revived just because of the nostalgia wave started by American Graffiti and Happy Days (so the show was pretty late to the wave), and it also had a name that just dates it so horribly. Calling any show, "The NEW..." just dates it so quickly.

At least TNG had "Next," which means it could come at any point from the future

 

[Trekkin]

The Dallas revival got the axe, and here we haven't even got a DVD release for it. I also was under the impression that the Leave it to Beaver movie didn't do so hot.

X-Files and Twin Peaks also had something that would at least bring in a few viewers - their plots were left hanging. Regardless of personal distaste for TATV or NEM, Prime Trek wasn't. And when both those series tried to 'restart' with non-direct sequel movies ( I Want To Believe and Fire Walk With Me), and they failed.

 

[Makarov]

Firefly got revived for a movie despite being cancelled as a show.

They tried to revive Twilight Zone twice and it was never quite right, or maybe the timing was wrong, but they still took a couple cracks at it. Outer limits as well.

The Thing 2011 is an awesome continuation / prequel of John Carpenter's the Thing.

 

[TRON JA307020]

Firefly got revived for a movie despite being cancelled as a show.

They tried to revive Twilight Zone twice and it was never quite right, or maybe the timing was wrong, but they still took a couple cracks at it. Outer limits as well.

The Thing 2011 is an awesome continuation / prequel of John Carpenter's the Thing.

The 80s twilight zone revival is now a cult classic especially the first couple of season. You can catch the eps on youtube. They are pretty good and a nice little time capsule of 80s culture just as the original was of the early 60s. The 2000s version was really bad except for the Bill Mumy sequel to Its A Good Life(1960s) called Its Still A Good Life.

 

[Trekkin]

They aren't exactly a convincing arguement for why studio should let fans make decisions. Neither of them did extraordinarily well, and certainly well not enough to convince Paramount to give up their current model. They couldn't even make back their budget.

Even Veronica Mars has only managed to make back half its costs, and that might have been enough to cover the costs of Warner Bros distributing it. The only reason that wasn't considered a disaster was because the fans actually paid for most of it. An entire season of Trek would require nearly 20 times that amount, and even cheapest the Trek movie was made for twice that...only that was over thirty years ago, and with the advantage of being able to use a heap of stuff left from the previous movie.

 

[Ryan8bit]

Here are some other shows that ended in the 2004-2005 season. Any of those still relevant?

I'd say JAG is being that it has had several hugely popular spinoffs. And Law and Order: Trial by Jury, despite being unsuccessful, is still part of a large franchise that's still very successful. Sometimes these properties have little failures that get pushed aside and they solider on, like how Star Trek did with the new movies.

Of course, these shows aren't quite like a science fiction space drama. They're cheaper to make, they have bigger audiences, and they're just generally not very risky. I don't think that completely rules out Star Trek returning to TV, it just makes it harder. When it does, I doubt it's going to be any kind of direct continuation of any of the other shows. At best it will pay lip service or just keep continuity in broad strokes.

 

[Ithekro]

Star Trek is on the air somewhere on the planet almost all the time now it seems. In one form or another. TNG seems to be on the most often which would assume to be the most popular in younger people's minds when they think of Star Trek.

Yet, most of the fan productions are for Star Trek TOS era. Maybe it is easier to do. If one is successful enough, and I mean viral levels of successful, which is unlikely, since it is Star Trek/sci-fi, and even at its hight point, Star Trek was not viral levels successful, than CBS might decide they should do TV Trek again. Of sci-fi, I think only Star Wars has been viral level successful.

If one wants another example of a successful reboot/remake of a series, Space Battleship Yamato. Japan, animated 1974, with several sequel series and films from 1978-1983. A unsuccessful sequel (Yamato 2520) in the 1990s. Then another semi-successful sequel animinated movie in 2009, followed by a very successful live action movie in 2010, then a very successful remake series in 2012 (Yamato 2199), followed by a sequel film of that remake in 2014. There is also talk of an American made live action film of this series in the near future.

 

[BillJ]

Star Trek is on the air somewhere on the planet almost all the time now it seems. In one form or another. TNG seems to be on the most often which would assume to be the most popular in younger people's minds when they think of Star Trek.

In the U.S., the only place TNG airs is the digital tier BBC America which cable subscribers have to pay extra for. Star Trek airs on MeTV. Neither is in any type of high-profile slot.

I don't think TNG is close to being the most popular Trek in the minds of younger people.