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Will they create a new Batmobile?

[I thought that guy was just some lawyer or something working for Wayne Enterprises who happened to stumble on the blue prints for the Tumbler.
Nope... this was the guy who Wayne hired to dig into the asian "mafia" firm's records. He was hired because he was very good at digging into the records... getting past blocks... making connections... and figuring out what's really going on.

Unfortunately, Fox and Wayne didn't expect that he'd use his not inconsiderable talents to dig into the WAYNE databases as well... (I'm sure that wasn't part of his defined job, after all!).

You can't just "stumble onto" encrypted files on protected servers... and real companies regularly restrict data access so that nobody in the company has access to anything beyond what their job requires.

No, this guy almost certainly had to dig deep and hard to find that information.
Even if he's some hacker or something, I'm sure that at least some of the Wayne Enterprises technology he uses has been seen by some people outside of the company (mainly high level members of the military, who would be the primary group interested in buying this type of stuff). Having links between Batman and Wayne Enterprises is dangerous for Bruce at this point, he doesn't need the spotlight drawn to him and his company.
I've worked on a number of military contracts (I'm working on some hardware on the E-2D "Hawkeye" right now, actually). As a rule, the presentation of design data is handled in a very specific fashion... at very specific times in the funding and acquisition process. As of right now, nobody in the Navy has seen even a hint of what I'm working on, though they know the IDEAS behind it. I won't be presenting even a basic concept until we do a "PDR" (preliminary design review) in, probably, two months. And what we'll be presenting at that point will be a CONCEPT, not a finished and proven design. Later in the process, once we've gotten the design done and have done design validation testing, we'll have what's called a "CDR" (critical design review) where we present the final design to the customer, and they'll give us approval to move towards production.

My point? Until CDR, nobody outside of my company need ever have seen the system.

With the "bridging system," it's clear that it never worked. So Waynetech could never have taken it to CDR. Yes, PARTS of the system worked, but it was being sold as a system, not as parts.

It's more likely that someone in the government might've seen it if the government was funding its development... but if it was privately funded internally by Waynetech, there would be no right whatsoever to see the underlying technology until it was actually being approved for military acquisition.

That doesn't negate anything of your basic point though... it merely redirects it. Mr. Fox didn't personally design every nut, bolt, plate, control, strut... I doubt he designed any element of that himself, actually (part of why I've passed up several opportunities for promotion to a management position is that I love doing design work and I don't want to be taken away from that side of things... which inevitably happens with that sort of promotion!)

In other words... there's a team (and probably a fairly LARGE team) who developed each of those pieces of hardware. There's no doubt that there are quite a few Waynetech employees, or former employees, who recognize their own work when they see, or read about, Batman.

Let's just hope that, for Batman's sake, Waynetech's "nondisclosure/intellectual property" agreements were particularly harsh and draconian! ;)
 
Of course if Wayne reported the thing stolen, then he has plausible deniability. If such was the case, all anyone can prove is that Wayne Tech built it.
 
But if it was reported stolen, then Batman would be in possession of a stolen vehicle. And Bruce Wayne would have filed a false report.
 
I actually think they should just stick with the Batpod as primary transportation. It makes sense and actually has a badass sleek look, and is more "stealthy" than the tank.

I prefer Batman more as a creature of the night, the brute force TANK-STYLE Tumbler never really fit the Batman that i envison, it really only worked in Dark Knight Returns, which was great but not exactly a "normal" Batman tale, more of an Elseworlds possible future.
 
Not exactly to my tastes, and also it occurs to me that any sort of recognizable brand-name sports car like that would be a bad choice: production runs are small(and thus harder to hide the purchase of), repairs would be a hassle, and in the end those cars are not really made to hold up to the rigors of Batman's nightly life and would need heavy modification anyways (to the point it would no longer be a recognizable brand-name sports car; compare the '89 Corvettte with the '89 Batmobile)

Well, I didn't mean they should base it off the real Alar. From what I read, the Alar is a kit car based off the Diablo and I'm not sure they've actually even built any - it's supposed to be a South American exclusive. Anyway, my point was that stylistically that would be a good jump-off point, but I see what you're saying - take the running gear and build a new vehicle off of it. I'm all for that, I just think it should be a cool looking sports car as well. Call me a traditionalist. :rommie:
 
I Have Seen The New Batmobile! And it looks like this!!!

Check it out!!!:
wx8-transparent-sm500.png




Actually, it's the Vector Motors WX8, but IMHO, I think ol' Gerald A. Wiegert
(The owner, founder, & current chairman of Vector Motors) seriously needs to get in touch w/ Warner Bros. & Christopher Nolan & start pushing to have this car as the next Batmobile in the third movie in the trilogy! Looks awesome(!!!), doesn't it?!! At least I think so!! So guys, whaddayathink?!!! Laters!

Sincerely,

Van


P.S.: Just in case you wanna check this out at their Website, they've got even more pics up there as well! Just go to http://www.vectormotors.com/wx8-specs.html
& then click on the Gallery link at the top of the page for some ultra-cool wallpapers of this Hyper-Performance Supercar! Okay, Cya!

Van
 
With the Tumbler blown up in "Dark Knight" do you think they will bring in another Tumbler or do something different or not even have a batmobile? We didn't see the Batcave in the recent moview so it's possible we might see him stick with the bike, though I would think they would come up with something new that can be sold as a toy. The batplane is one option though I wonder how they can do that realistic. The Batbat is something to think about as well but then that means you need a excuse to have Batman out on the Ocean.

Jason
Two points:

1) The tumbler was designed to be part of a bridging system, remember. Two of these vehicles would jump over a river, pulling tow-cables, and would deploy a bridge. The bridge system was never quite able to work properly... which means that they had to have tested it. Which, in turn, means that they had to have TWO tumblers (minimum) in order to perform the testing.

2) That said, the problem with the Tumbler is that it would be recognizable to some folks. Not just the various engineers who worked on its development, or the various vendors who supplied subsystems which were integrated into the final vehicle, but also the various military and governmental folks who would have had the concept presented to them (which could have happened, especially if they were looking for outside funding... apparently not the case with this vehicle, though).

Remember, in "Batman Begins," there was a lot of emphasis during the "costume creation" bit about how they'd have to order various bits from various sources and integrate them themselves? This was to avoid the likelihood of any individual components being likely to be used to connect Bruce Wayne to Batman.

So... I expect to see something different in the next film. I wouldn't be shocked to see the other tumbler repainted... after all, there's nothing to preclude Batman from having multiple vehicles (and there's actually a strong argument in FAVOR of it, with the only argument against being storage space!)

I'd expect to see:

  • the second tumbler, but converted a bit to be less recognizeable.
  • a "fast vehicle" which is basically an advanced sports-car model with lots of protective and stealth features.
  • a bike, but hopefully not the "pod" which is just too "over the top" to fit in with the more realistic Batman world we've finally been given (one with is supposed to, like the comics, be more like "reality" and less like "fantasy"). Maybe a modified (more mechanically-stable) reworking of the pod?
  • A "passenger vehicle" capable of carrying more than one or two passengers. Something almost along the lines of a "Bat-SUV." On occasion, I'd think this would be pretty much necessary, wouldn't you?
  • A boat... but not like in the 1960s series. Just a stealthy, secured speedboat with some electronic extras.
  • One thing that I really think would be VERY useful would be something along the lines of the classic "bat-gyro." A silent, ultralight, remote-controllable personal helicopter. I mean, seriously, no matter HOW in-shape you are, all that building-climbing has to take a toll eventually.
  • Finally, one thing that the 1950s batmobile had was a "mobile crime lab" in the back. I think something similar to this... ideally, looking "normal" on the outside (say, like a beat-up delivery van?") would be a necessary part of the stable.
 
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