• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Will "The Phantom Menace 3D" bomb?

I think the novelty or spectacle will get some people to fork over cash for TPM. I don't think it will bomb, but I don't think it will be a runaway success either. I think the box office will be okay, but these films are not as beloved as the original trilogy. Plus when he put out the special editions of the OT, it was done some 20 years later so he had that nostalgia factor to play off of that won't be in play here. Right now, these movies will be running perhaps alongside the arguably superior Clone Wars cartoons.

Now, if GL comes out and says he's adding new scenes in terms of changing the story, new characters, stuff like that, it might generate more interest. If he uses the films to tighten up the prequels that might do the trick.

I didn't care for TPM and I don't like 3D so I'm not going to see it. If new stuff was added to AOTC and ROTS, like I described above, I might go see them.
 
I like space opera movies with spaceships and funny aliens and laser guns that go pew pew. Seeing that in 3D while eating popcorn sounds like a lot of fun.
 
it'll do fine. There are enough hardcore and casual star wars fans who will watch it to buoy it.

SW isn't like Star Trek or Farscape or BSG. It's "hardcore" fanbase is actually pretty huge. Has any Star Wars thing, books, cartoons, movies flopped? Even if they're sh-t they do well (not saying everything is shit)
 
68 million. More than Nemesis, lol.
It actually made $35 mil. domestically, which is nowhere near as bad as it looks, considering that it was made for less than one tenth the cost of an average Pixar movie.

A budget of $8.5 million according to The-Numbers; made that cheaply it definitely broke even. But that "movie" was probably more important to Warner Bros. as a big way of advertising "The Clone Wars" television series, anyway. Box office receipts were just icing on the cake.
 
It's undoubtedly one of the most notorious and badmouthed movies of the last two decades or so (perhaps even of all time).

However... There is one thing. It was considered a disappointment almost instantly when it was released (despite the huge ticket sales), and the resentment towards it grew with time, but when it came out on DVD two and a half years later, it still managed to sell like crazy (in fact, it was a record breaker - Wikipedia says 5 million copies were sold in the first two days).

But that was 10 years ago, and today, this film is probably ten times as infamous as it was back then.

So all things considered, do you think the 3D re-release will bomb at the boxoffice? Also, how much does it actually have to make to be considered a success? I'm thinking 70-90 million domestically, but how much does the 3D conversion even cost?

Lastly, are YOU planning on giving Lucas your hard earned cash... Again?

To be fair to the film, it was hyped so much that it could do nothing but fail to live up to expectations.
 
It's undoubtedly one of the most notorious and badmouthed movies of the last two decades or so (perhaps even of all time).

However... There is one thing. It was considered a disappointment almost instantly when it was released (despite the huge ticket sales), and the resentment towards it grew with time, but when it came out on DVD two and a half years later, it still managed to sell like crazy (in fact, it was a record breaker - Wikipedia says 5 million copies were sold in the first two days).

But that was 10 years ago, and today, this film is probably ten times as infamous as it was back then.

So all things considered, do you think the 3D re-release will bomb at the boxoffice? Also, how much does it actually have to make to be considered a success? I'm thinking 70-90 million domestically, but how much does the 3D conversion even cost?

Lastly, are YOU planning on giving Lucas your hard earned cash... Again?

To be fair to the film, it was hyped so much that it could do nothing but fail to live up to expectations.

To be even fairer, it only failed the expectations of old Star Wars fans.
 
Well, I might be interested if they're redoing any parts of the film. The DVD releases changed the films slightly, just as the DVD release of the Original Trilogy actually altered the Special Edition in places (the much ballyhooed Hayden Christensen being the most notorious example of this).

Retooling the special effects to deliberately work in 3D would not be a bad idea, anyway... and as far as the rest of the movies go, I never saw A New Hope in theatres.

But I don't know. I haven't seen a 3D movie since Avatar. Might as well pass again.
 
Regarding Star Wars stuff flopping, there have been a few games that didn't do too well as hoped. I think the second Force Unleashed is in this category. There's been rumors that the upcoming and oft-delayed MMO The Old Republic cost so much to make (Perhaps even more than the budget of one of the films) that it'll have to sell a ton to break even.

There was a much publicized problems with Taco Bell/Pizza Hutt/KFC who refused to work with Lucas ever again after their TPM promotion flopped. Also DK publishing lost a ton of money on TPM reference books, however they bounced back OK and continued to work with Lucasfilm.


The books and comics often sell very well, though. Toy wise I think a few things such as the EU comic packs didn't work out too well and are now mainly exclusives.



BTW anybody remember TPM's limited charity re-release around Holiday 1999?
 
Last edited:
Yeah I think it was too soon, people weren't ready to go back to the theater and see a movie that had just left theaters a few months earlier.
 
It's undoubtedly one of the most notorious and badmouthed movies of the last two decades or so (perhaps even of all time).

However... There is one thing. It was considered a disappointment almost instantly when it was released (despite the huge ticket sales), and the resentment towards it grew with time, but when it came out on DVD two and a half years later, it still managed to sell like crazy (in fact, it was a record breaker - Wikipedia says 5 million copies were sold in the first two days).

But that was 10 years ago, and today, this film is probably ten times as infamous as it was back then.

So all things considered, do you think the 3D re-release will bomb at the boxoffice? Also, how much does it actually have to make to be considered a success? I'm thinking 70-90 million domestically, but how much does the 3D conversion even cost?

Lastly, are YOU planning on giving Lucas your hard earned cash... Again?

To be fair to the film, it was hyped so much that it could do nothing but fail to live up to expectations.

To be even fairer, it only failed the expectations of old Star Wars fans.

:lol: Very true. Every kid I've seen watch it has loved it.

I may take my daughter, who'll be 5 by then. I may not. We haven't watched either trilogy yet but she has seen the show.
 
To be fair to the film, it was hyped so much that it could do nothing but fail to live up to expectations.

To be even fairer, it only failed the expectations of old Star Wars fans.

:lol: Very true. Every kid I've seen watch it has loved it.
I first saw TPM some ten days after the Croatian première (which was almost five months after the domestic release, that kind of shit was normal back in the nineties), and I don't remember a single person leaving the (completely packed) theatre bitching about the movie. In fact, a lot of people appeared totally psyched (mostly because of the visuals, I reckon). Also, out of the dozens of my friends and schoolmates who saw it (it was considered a "must see", much like Avatar a decade later), not one of them talked trash about it.

I can't say the same about AOTC, though. There was absolutely ZERO hype surrounding that movie in my country.
 
Maybe they just gave up after realizing how terrible TPM was. :p
Some of them, I'd imagine... Sure. But the thing is, unlike TPM, AOTC was so poorly advertised over here, that a lot of people had absolutely no idea that the new SW movie came to theatres. There were virtually no TV ads, no outdoor poster campaign, nothing. I even remember people coming into my local video store, taking the AOTC DVD case into their hands, and going "WTF is this? Star Wars? SRSLY?"

Wasn't like that with ROTS, though. TV ads and outdoor posters were all over the place, the attendance in cinemas was considerably larger, and the overall response was much better too.
 
I hope that when Ep IV comes out in 3D he has replaced that terrible CG Jabba with Ziro.

I'd rather see TPM Jabba in that scene.
Couldn't they just dig out a ROTJ Jabba from a warehouse somewhere, shoot it with 3D cameras in front of blue screen and then insert it into ANH? Then they can just digitally edit its eyes in post, to make them look more "alive" (like they did with ET for the 20th anniversary edition).

Alternatively, the SFX team that brought Davy Jones to life shouldn't have a problem making a new, decent looking CGI version. ILM probably already has a wireframe mesh of Jabba backed up somewhere, so it's only a matter of cosmetic tweaking.
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top