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Will "The Phantom Menace 3D" bomb?

There was a much publicized problems with Taco Bell/Pizza Hutt/KFC who refused to work with Lucas ever again after their TPM promotion flopped. Also DK publishing lost a ton of money on TPM reference books, however they bounced back OK and continued to work with Lucasfilm.

I wouldn't say "bounced back". The company went broke and was bought out by another publisher.
 
Regarding Star Wars stuff flopping, there have been a few games that didn't do too well as hoped. I think the second Force Unleashed is in this category.

I don't know what that game did in terms of sales numbers, but its main problem was that it was half a game being sold ( initially ) at full price. The whole Boba Fett inclusion was little more than a tease, some levels were ridiculously short, etc. It does, for once, allow Vader to get "beaten" while implying it's all part of his master plan ( especially if "Distant Thunder" is taken into consideration ) and thus avoiding the usual gimping effect, so that's nice. In fact, his Force ability as seen in the game appears to be commensurate with that of Sidious in ROTS. But it's still not enough to make up for the length.
 
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I missed this bit before...

A budget of $8.5 million according to The-Numbers
Only 8.5 million?

Here's an interesting comparison:

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I wonder if Disney fired anyone over this. :lol:
 
It's undoubtedly one of the most notorious and badmouthed movies of the last two decades or so (perhaps even of all time).

However... There is one thing. It was considered a disappointment almost instantly when it was released (despite the huge ticket sales), and the resentment towards it grew with time, but when it came out on DVD two and a half years later, it still managed to sell like crazy (in fact, it was a record breaker - Wikipedia says 5 million copies were sold in the first two days).

But that was 10 years ago, and today, this film is probably ten times as infamous as it was back then.

So all things considered, do you think the 3D re-release will bomb at the boxoffice? Also, how much does it actually have to make to be considered a success? I'm thinking 70-90 million domestically, but how much does the 3D conversion even cost?

Lastly, are YOU planning on giving Lucas your hard earned cash... Again?

To be fair to the film, it was hyped so much that it could do nothing but fail to live up to expectations.

To be even fairer, it only failed the expectations of old Star Wars fans.
Bullshit. I was in middle school when it came out and I and my friends were all disappointed to the point that one friend of mine gave me all his Star Wars stuff shortly after. I kept the faith in spite of my complete disappointment and kept insisting the next would be better, but honestly by the time the last movie came out my interest in anything Star Wars was pretty much gone. I wasn't even alive when ROTJ came out so I can't possibly be an 'old' fan.
 
I was in middle school when it came out and I and my friends were all disappointed to the point that one friend of mine gave me all his Star Wars stuff shortly after.
WTF? :guffaw:

So you and Gaith go way back, huh? :lol:





Note to the mods - no malintent here, just attempted humour.
 
As much as I enjoy the PT, and would love to see it (as well as the OT) again on the Big Screen™ ... the 3D aspect diminishes my enthusiasm. Besides, there's no way a theatrical re-release of the PT could compare to the Special Edition release of the OT -- for which the marketing was utterly brilliant.

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You know, it's sad that I can't imagine LucasFilm doing a major marketing push these days that included the words "Luke Skywalker", "Han Solo", and "Princess Leia".
 
Besides, there's no way a theatrical re-release of the PT could compare to the Special Edition release of the OT -- for which the marketing was utterly brilliant.
Well, that takes me back.

Is true, too, the Special Edition was my first time seeing the Star Wars movies on the big screen... or, actually, seeing the Star Wars movies period. So it makes perfect sense the first one I saw was Empire Strikes Back and for the first stretch of the movie I couldn't tell Han Solo and Luke Skywalker apart and I was asking my friend who that ghost talking to Luke was.
 
It'll definitely be interesting to see what the trailers for this will look like. I'm guessing we'll see a LOT of shots of Darth Maul, a lot of shots of the final lightsaber battle and the pod race.... and that's about it.

Certainly no Jar-Jar or Neimodians or Amidala in the ridiculous geisha girl makeup-- all things which I'd consider to be the MOST identifiable with TPM.
 
Will "The Phantom Menace 3D" bomb?

If there's a God yes, yes it will.

So, yeah, it'll rake in lots of cash as Star Wars fanbois have pretty much shown they'll watch and buy what ever Lucas is shoveling out there.
 
I missed this bit before...

A budget of $8.5 million according to The-Numbers
Only 8.5 million?

Here's an interesting comparison:

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I wonder if Disney fired anyone over this. :lol:

I have no doubt that Mars Needs Moms led to people getting fired -- it landed with a huge thud and cost a lot to make. On the subject of The Clone Wars, I assume it was so cheap to produce because it was originally three episodes for television, and only belatedly turned into a movie.
 
To be fair to the film, it was hyped so much that it could do nothing but fail to live up to expectations.

To be even fairer, it only failed the expectations of old Star Wars fans.
Bullshit. I was in middle school when it came out and I and my friends were all disappointed to the point that one friend of mine gave me all his Star Wars stuff shortly after. I kept the faith in spite of my complete disappointment and kept insisting the next would be better, but honestly by the time the last movie came out my interest in anything Star Wars was pretty much gone. I wasn't even alive when ROTJ came out so I can't possibly be an 'old' fan.

You knew the Original Trilogy really well, didn't you? Which makes you an old fan.
 
That isn't even an argument. I became a Star Wars fan around 9 or 10 but I was never the guy who knew what kind of engine is in a T-16 or the species of every alien in the cantina, I just liked the stories and the characters and the universe was a great setting for them. At 13 the new movie came out. If a kid who likes the movies a lot and can enjoy even the crappier books and games and whatnot on some level can't enjoy an actual new movie it is a failure on the film-maker's part.
 
I was in middle school when it came out and I and my friends were all disappointed to the point that one friend of mine gave me all his Star Wars stuff shortly after.
WTF? :guffaw:

So you and Gaith go way back, huh? :lol:
Just because I'm a proud member of the Prequel Rejection Society doesn't mean I'm ever giving away my totally rad Darth Maul and Qui-Gon legos. Our good Venardhi must be thinking of someone else. ;)
 
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That isn't even an argument. I became a Star Wars fan around 9 or 10 but I was never the guy who knew what kind of engine is in a T-16 or the species of every alien in the cantina, I just liked the stories and the characters and the universe was a great setting for them. At 13 the new movie came out. If a kid who likes the movies a lot and can enjoy even the crappier books and games and whatnot on some level can't enjoy an actual new movie it is a failure on the film-maker's part.

LOL, it's the filmmakers failure if you don't like something. It's just a matter of taste.
 
Nope. Taste is not liking dick and fart jokes, or preferring Asian women. Taste is thinking sour patch kids are too tart or Bushmills is too peaty.

Taste is not an excuse for bad craftsmanship.
 
Didn't the Clone Wars film get even worse reviews than the other films? Part of that seemed to be just to pick on George Lucas (EW's "George Lucas is the enemy of fun"), who actually did not write or direct it. It seems basically like The Howard The Duck of it's time-Lucas only produced, yet he gets the blame.
 
It's still fallout from TPM. Because of that film, Lucas will always be the guy who is automatically wrong no matter what he does.
 
Didn't the Clone Wars film get even worse reviews than the other films? Part of that seemed to be just to pick on George Lucas (EW's "George Lucas is the enemy of fun"), who actually did not write or direct it. It seems basically like The Howard The Duck of it's time-Lucas only produced, yet he gets the blame.
Yeah, it's not like we talk about Lucas favourably as a producer in say, Raiders of the Lost Ark or Empire Strikes Back.

Look. Lucas is has been a producer on far more films then he's been a director, and actually, since the original Star Wars, producing has been most of what he's done - the prequel films were the exception to that rule.

It was also Lucas's decision and idea to turn what was planned to be the first arc of episodes in the Clone Wars into a movie... and turning a Hutt into a Truman Capote type was also Lucas' idea.

If one wants to make the point that blame can be passed around to David Filoni et al., that's fair enough, but Lucas wasn't hands off here.
 
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