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Will Star Trek XI be "canon" ?

You're right, Data is alive at the end of Nemesis, Terra Prime was the series finale of Enterprise, and TATV was a noncannon 1 off Trek Series final.

They all happened.
 
You're right, Data is alive at the end of Nemesis, Terra Prime was the series finale of Enterprise, and TATV was a noncannon 1 off Trek Series final.

They all happened.

Hey, you're the delusional one, but if that's what makes you happy...
 
Pocket is, in fact, getting ready to publish novels based on the new timeline.

Of course, the key problem with this whole idea is that this film isn't really aimed at people who read much, so...
I don't follow.

He's calling the majority of people who will see this film, the casual-to-non Trek fan, illiterate morons.

It's his modus operandi. Oh well, pot and kettle...
He is allowed to hate. It is only when we answer that the Moderators step in. BTDT (Been There Done That).:rolleyes:
 
I mean what I said.

Meanwhile you can stay content to strew about in your own short-sighted, almost hilarious negativity. :)
 
Pocket is, in fact, getting ready to publish novels based on the new timeline.

Of course, the key problem with this whole idea is that this film isn't really aimed at people who read much, so...
I don't follow.

He's calling the majority of people who will see this film, the casual-to-non Trek fan, illiterate morons.

It's his modus operandi. Oh well, pot and kettle...
He is allowed to hate. It is only when we answer that the Moderators step in. BTDT (Been There Done That).:rolleyes:

Yeah, I know, it's sad. Oh well, the majority will be vindicated soon enough.
What I fail to understand is why anyone feels an empty, sad and bitter (and completely non-personal, unlike a couple of others quoted above) crack such as Captain April's here was deemed worth responding to at all. By answering, you validate his position. Consider that for a moment, if you will.


Vindicated? Or just drawn further down the rabbit hole?
This, now, a little more closely resembles baiting. In fact, it's exactly like baiting. Warned for trolling.

Comments to PM. We now return you to your originally-scheduled topic. Post, not poster. Contemno Proinde non Canonus. Play ball!
 
By answering, you validate his position. Consider that for a moment, if you will.

Fair enough, quite right.

It'd be interesting to see what the perspective is of those that have actually seen the film.
 
Re: "minutiae" - Nimoy

"Canon is only important to certain people because they have to cling to their knowledge of the minutiae," Nimoy told Reuters.
May 5, 2009

I think that works better with the rest of the quote as well

"Canon is only important to certain people because they have to cling to their knowledge of the minutiae," Nimoy told Reuters.
"Open your mind! Be a 'Star Trek' fan and open your mind and say, 'Where does Star Trek want to take me now'."
 
"minutiae" - Nimoy

I think that works better with the rest of the quote as well
I wasn't taking Nimoy out of context. People usually want to feel positive about things all the time. Geez.
Yes there are half a dozen threads on this forum about ST:XI and canon.

This thread's title is about 'will the new film be canon?'. Nimoy is telling us that it doesn't matter for the most part. I didn't feel we needed to hear him being upbeat about the plot. There is enough positive buzz in the press and by fans. SalvorHardin please don't take it personally.
 
Re: "minutiae" - Nimoy

I think that works better with the rest of the quote as well
I wasn't taking Nimoy out of context. People usually want to feel positive about things all the time. Geez.
Yes there are half a dozen threads on this forum about ST:XI and canon.

This thread's title is about 'will the new film be canon?'. Nimoy is telling us that it doesn't matter for the most part. I didn't feel we needed to hear him being upbeat about the plot. There is enough positive buzz in the press and by fans. SalvorHardin please don't take it personally.

No,no. Don't misunderstand me.
I wasn't implying you were taking him out of context or that your intentions weren't good.

I just honestly though it shows better what Nimoy is trying to say if the whole quote is present. You know, sometime people don't bother following a link and read the whole article.
 
Sooner or later Abrams-Trek will have to cut loose from the "original" Trek universe continuity-wise, and then sink or swim on its own.

I respectfully disagree. There's tons of material that hasn't been done or the writers could use a new ship or something. A Dominion war movie, a Romulon war movie? A Titan movie? Why monkey with established TOS canon with alternate timelines and such.

Mike
 
Considering so many fans don't consider TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, or the movies canon, I think this will be up to each individual.

I'll decide once I see the movie whether or not it's canon for me. I also see it as an AU universe before the attack - it easily explains away both physical details due to actor change and technology details.:cool:

If others disagree - enjoy. :techman:
 
Sooner or later Abrams-Trek will have to cut loose from the "original" Trek universe continuity-wise, and then sink or swim on its own.

I respectfully disagree. There's tons of material that hasn't been done or the writers could use a new ship or something. A Dominion war movie, a Romulon war movie? A Titan movie? Why monkey with established TOS canon with alternate timelines and such.

Mike

Because they want real money and not the fraction of an audience that a Titan or Dominion War film would bring versus what we're getting.
 
There is no actual definition of "canon" that equates to "this is the stuff I personally like." The term and concept of "personal canon" is ignorant gibberish. It's correct to say "this is what I like and this is what I choose not to pay attention to."
 
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