Wild Wacky Idea: How About A Slow, Thoughtful Trek For Us Old People?

[slappy]

Star Trek: Picard had a slow-paced story, was intended to be a miniseries, and while it ends on a space battle and the fate of the universe at play (and begins with some phaser-fighting), it is mostly a thriller filled with intrigue and not all-out action most of the time. The crew is the smallest in Star Trek history and its main character is literally a nonagenarian (played by an octogenarian).

I can't think of any Star Trek more fitting for us old people than Star Trek: Picard.

And I love Picard. I think it has the benefit of starting a beloved character from a very successful era, as well. I still think it suggests a bit from modern pew pew shooty video game action syndrome.

People mention BOBW and YE as examples of episodes that price people want action. That only proves to me that people want action with weight. When your main characters are all double clutching two phasers, gangster style, in an anti-grav scenario, anticipating an imminent warp corp breach....in what ends up being someone's dream ...it ceases to have the same effect.

Strange New Worlds is the least risky or challenging of all the new Star Trek shows. Don't get me wrong, it's a great idea, but it's literally taking Star Trek in a paint-by-numbers routine: "A Captain of a starship goes on adventures in space." This describes almost all of the six original shows (DS9 after the Defiant came into play), but none of the modern Star Trek shows.

I said SNW would be the closest. And you just laid out why it would be risky. It's not re-inventing the wheel as far as concepts go.

Honestly, if they asked me, I would do something completely off the wall. A mini about the last mission of the Enterprise B. Cuz why not.

 

[fireproof78]

When your main characters are all double clutching two phasers, gangster style, in an anti-grav scenario, anticipating an imminent warp corp breach....in what ends up being someone's dream ...it ceases to have the same effect.

It depends on the person. For me it carries weight because it matters to the characters. The argument that I struggle with that frustrates me is that if a character comes back to life then their death supposedly means nothing. It's not like the characters know they are going to live or come back. So how does that reduce the weight?

That's my view, any way.

 

[Angry Fanboy]

You know what I miss? A nice senior staff meeting around a conference table. Have a chat about options, get people's thoughts, decide on a course of action, dismissed!

 

[Lord Garth]

I have attempted to get back to TNG and try it again and it's hard. It's slow but not in a thoughtful way. It feels slow in a padding type way that we can't get to the solution too quick and I find it incredibly distracting.

I can't get through it either. I've tried to finish S6 as part of my extremely protracted re-watch...and I just can't.

I worked my way around this problem. I just created a new watch-list of episodes for myself in the future, so I can skip anything not on the list... and avoid running into "Oh no! Not this episode!" ever again.

When I did my re-watch leading up to Picard last year, I still had to think a lot of the time, "I haven't seen this episode since I was in high school. What will I think of it now that I'm 40?" But now that I know, it made putting together that list really easy. I just chopped out anything I gave below a 7.

 

[Vger23]

I worked my way around this problem. I just created a new watch-list of episodes for myself in the future, so I can skip anything not on the list... and avoid running into "Oh no! Not this episode!" ever again.

When I did my re-watch leading up to Picard last year, I still had to think a lot of the time, "I haven't seen this episode since I was in high school. What will I think of it now that I'm 40?" But now that I know, it made putting together that list really easy. I just chopped out anything I gave below a 7.

Good point, there's no reason to watch everything.

It's staring at the prospects of turds like "Aquiel" that causes me to abandon hope. No reason to watch something that is weak, though!

 

[Alexander Corrino]

Even I don't watch all of TNG. There, I admitted it.

 

[XCV330]

for me, TNG watching is like viewing Bob Ross. I don't really care what is going on, and I'm not really paying much attention. It's The Waltons of space.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Good point, there's no reason to watch everything.

It's staring at the prospects of turds like "Aquiel" that causes me to abandon hope. No reason to watch something that is weak, though!

Is it weird I like that episode?

 

[Vger23]

Is it weird I like that episode?

No, not at all man. Like....you're totally good. Don't worry about it.


Totally.....

 

[The Old Mixer]

It's not as weird as liking "Masks"...

 

[fireproof78]

It's not as weird as liking "Masks"...

Hey now!

 

[F. King Daniel]

It's not as weird as liking "Masks"...

I like Masks too!!

 

[The Wormhole]

Masks has some campy fun to it. I can get behind liking that. Aquiel was terrible though.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Masks has some campy fun to it. I can get behind liking that. Aquiel was terrible though.

Your campy fun is my had to spread out rewatching it over three nights because I couldn't stay awake.

 

[Starbreaker]

I sure wish we could ditch The Storyteller.

Imagine Discovery having this as a storyline. People would cancel their subscriptions the same day.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

I have trouble getting through TOS except for a handful of the best episodes because of the camp factor and reductionism.

TNG the only issue I have is I watched it so many times in high school and college it’s ruined for me.

I agree that the long season format that allows for downtime episodes gives the viewer a comfier place to settle into.

 

[Mudd]

TOS is the only series I'm likely to watch at all these days. Occasionally one of the movies, usually the Abrams films (my SO prefers them).

 

[fireproof78]

TOS is my go to for simple watching.

 

[Jayson1]

I thought Picard was going to be the slow thoughtful trek for old people and it kind of felt like that in the first 3 episodes. Frankly I would be all in on Picard just being about Picard hanging out at his vinyard with his Romulan friends, while having dinners with his friend/doctor and sometimes going to Starfleet Headquarters to consult with Starfleet Command on some political issue going on. All while dealing with the fact he is lonely and in the twilight of his life and maybe their is new hot shot Starfleet Captain of the current year Enterprise people are saying is the best Starfleet Captain since Kirk so maybe even some jealousy.


Jason

 

[F. King Daniel]

I thought Picard was going to be the slow thoughtful trek for old people and it kind of felt like that in the first 3 episodes. Frankly I would be all in on Picard just being about Picard hanging out at his vinyard with his Romulan friends, while having dinners with his friend/doctor and sometimes going to Starfleet Headquarters to consult with Starfleet Command on some political issue going on. All while dealing with the fact he is lonely and in the twilight of his life and maybe their is new hot shot Starfleet Captain of the current year Enterprise people are saying is the best Starfleet Captain since Kirk so maybe even some jealousy.


Jason

This except he and his housekeepers are solving crimes each episode.