I saw it in the theatre. I have the 2009 blu-ray release. A t least 3 scenes are not on the blu-ray or were changed and the blu-ray has no "Deleted Scenes" section. It changed the ending of the movie. The first scene was the "We'll clean their chronometers" line. I thought it was funny but I think many fans though this line was dumb. The second scene, I think, was the mind meld between Spock and the female vulcan. I think she mentioned Colonel West (Rene Auberjonois) as one of the conspirators. The third scene is near the end. McCoy pulls off West's klingon mask, revealing him as the assassin. These are the scenes I remember seeing in the theatre that are not on the blu-ray. I guess Paramount decided it didn't like the scenes so they were removed for the blu-ray release but why not have them as deleted scenes on the blu-ray? Did Paramount think the scenes were so horrible - was Paramount so embarrassed - that they wanted to pretend that the scenes never existed? Star Trek has always used navy ranks and "Colonel" is army so "Colonel West" doesn't make sense in the Star Trek universe so that might be the reason for removing the scenes but it doesn't explain why they weren't included as deleted scenes.
Why was the ending of ST 6 changed on the blu-ray?
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The scenes were not in the theatrical screenings. The surprise reveal of Colonel West, the flip chart for Operation: Retrieve, and Scotty calling Azetbur a Klingon bitch, were various scenes added for the VHS. An unannounced special edition.
Then, for later releases, they went back to the theatrical version.
(EDIT: Flashback faces during the Valeris "mind rape" were added the next time the special edition was released commercially, on DVD.)
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Slight correction, the "flashback faces" were not part of the first home version, they were added to a later release, the "Special Collector's Edition" DVD. (Along with a few other tweaks like a close-up or two for Kirk and Bones where there were wide-shots originally.) There are at least three distinct official edits of the film. Theatrical, home release (on VHS and the first DVD), and the Special Collector's Edition.
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LOL. Ha ha ha ha. So they weren't in the theatrical release, eh? So, how do I know about them, genius? I've only seen the movie at the theatre and on blu-ray in my home. I don't remember Scotty calling Azetbur a "Klingon bitch". "various scenes added for the VHS. An unannounced special edition." So there was a VHS release? I've never owned this movie on VHS! So if these scenes only existed on VHS and I've never owned a VHS copy, then how do I know about them? Did you see the movie in the theatre in 1991 or does all your info come from something you read or were told? I remember seeing this movie at the theatre and I have a very clear memory of Rene Auberjonois saying the chronometers line and many in the audience laughed. I saw it in Edmonton, AB. Maybe I saw a different release than you. I have never owned a VHS copy.
So the home release was on DVD. How interesting but it doesn't apply to me. I just checked my DVD from 2009 and the scenes aren't there either. According to a Star Trek site I found, the version of the movie with the Colonel West scenes is known as the Director’s Cut. Google “different versions of movies are shown in different countries”. Google that – I dare you. Scroll down to the looper page. It lists several well-known live-action movies that were released in a different version in at least 1 country other than the U.S. The list includes Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Demolition Man, Talladega Nights, Lincoln, Die Hard, The Shining and The Wolf of Wall Street.
So, there are 2 possibilities. 1) Canadian theatres received the Director’s Cut of the movie so that’s what people saw and since we saw it in the theatres, for us it was the theatrical release. 2) Somewhere between 20 and 29 years ago I bought or was given the VHS of the movie which I then watched. I then created in my mind the false memory, a memory I still have, of seeing it in the theatre. I then lost, sold or threw away the VHS. I then lost all memory of acquiring the VHS, watching it and getting rid of it. What makes more sense to you?
So, there are 2 possibilities. 1) Canadian theatres received the Director’s Cut of the movie so that’s what people saw and since we saw it in the theatres, for us it was the theatrical release. 2) Somewhere between 20 and 29 years ago I bought or was given the VHS of the movie which I then watched. I then created in my mind the false memory, a memory I still have, of seeing it in the theatre. I then lost, sold or threw away the VHS. I then lost all memory of acquiring the VHS, watching it and getting rid of it. What makes more sense to you?
Yes, there's 2 of them and it's clear who they are.
Your 2009 DVD is in fact the theatrical version.
The movie has been released on DVD multiple times.:
1999: the "home video" version with the Scooby Doo ending, Operation: Retrieve, etc., and in a slightly funky aspect ratio.
2004: Special Edition discussed by Tosk above.
2009: the theatrical version (the same as the blu-ray also released that year), in proper aspect ratio.
Kor
I hope you're not implying me as one. I've done nothing but answer the topic at hand with civility.
Not impossible. I saw the "home release" cut in a cinema in Australia. It was not a first run though*, it was a re-release at a sci-fi marathon...but it was the home release projected on film.
Anyway, as mentioned you can buy the version you remember on two different DVD releases.
*I didn't see it on first release, so I cannot speak for what hit cinema screens in Oz the first time around.
These people are correct, not "trolls" or "geniuses". What they are saying is correct.
The theatrical version of Star Trek VI was a shorter run time. It did not contain the Operation Retrieve scenes, the "Klingon Bitch" comment / discussion in the Enterprise torpedo bay, or the Colonel West Scooby-Doo ending. Some of that stuff appeared in preview material and in the theatrical trailer....but none was in the theatrical cut.
Subsequent home releases included these scenes (and a couple very brief others), and for well over a decade that was the only way to watch the film...but the most recent BR release is back to the original theatrical version.
But those scenes were absolutely not in the first-run theatrical cut of the film shown in Dec 1991.
I'm not sure what the animosity is all about. You asked a good question, you got a factual answer. There's not much else to it. It's certainly not personal.
Lots of people "misremember" movies. For example, I hear people all the time say they swear they saw the security guard shooting the plasma-energy probe on the bridge in Star Trek TMP, despite the fact that it's been confirmed this scene was never finished. Yes, there are production stills...but the scene itself was never cut into the film nor given finished vfx. So being accused as misremembering a film isn't a personal attack to get all up in arms about.
The theatrical version of Star Trek VI was a shorter run time. It did not contain the Operation Retrieve scenes, the "Klingon Bitch" comment / discussion in the Enterprise torpedo bay, or the Colonel West Scooby-Doo ending. Some of that stuff appeared in preview material and in the theatrical trailer....but none was in the theatrical cut.
Subsequent home releases included these scenes (and a couple very brief others), and for well over a decade that was the only way to watch the film...but the most recent BR release is back to the original theatrical version.
But those scenes were absolutely not in the first-run theatrical cut of the film shown in Dec 1991.
I'm not sure what the animosity is all about. You asked a good question, you got a factual answer. There's not much else to it. It's certainly not personal.
Lots of people "misremember" movies. For example, I hear people all the time say they swear they saw the security guard shooting the plasma-energy probe on the bridge in Star Trek TMP, despite the fact that it's been confirmed this scene was never finished. Yes, there are production stills...but the scene itself was never cut into the film nor given finished vfx. So being accused as misremembering a film isn't a personal attack to get all up in arms about.
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Oh it does, you just won't accept it. Everyone is correct about the scenes not being added until home video.
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...You know, the "Report" and "Ignore" functions are lovely features that don't get nearly the appreciation that they should. 
Oooh, correct! The flashback faces were very unnecessary.
Yes, I saw ST VI as an advance preview screening for fans in the Paramount Theaterette, Sydney, Australia, and then in a cinema in Ann Arbor, Michigan, later that December. I also recall the excitement of the VHS coming out and people seeing the new scenes in that VHS.
Rene's character was not revealed as a Klingon in the theatrical version.
But you may have rented it, or watched someone else's. Or seen a retro screening of the DVD on the big screen.
Check some original reviews of the VHS release. People mentioning their surprise about Colonel West's disguise. A new "Scooby Doo" ending.
You won't find any references to "Scooby Doo" in 1991 film or fan reviews.
The Mandela Effect still works.
Also in the trailer, but not in any version of the finished film: the Federation President walking into the room with his consort on his arm.
Efrosian president and consort by Ian McLean, on Flickr
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