WHy there are no Denobulans/Xindi in TOS and TNG?
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No, that was Xendi Starbase 9 in the Xendi Sabu system, in "The Battle." Just a coincidentally similar name.
Picard and Co seemed well informed about many aspects of the Ferengi in the Last Outpost.
They had heard things about the Ferengi from indirect encounters on the fringes of their territory in recent years, but they'd never actually met them face-to-face, as far as they knew. From Picard's opening log entry: "If we succeed in this chase, it will be Starfleet's first look at a life form which, discounting rumour, we know almost nothing about."
Too different. The Xindi-Insectoids are greenish, have antennae, and have only two arms. The insectoid on the Elysian council was reddish-brown with no antennae and four arms. (I tend to assume it's a Kaferian, as they've been established in tie-ins as an insectoid species.)
All most nothing includes:
The design of their ships
The Last Outpost said:
Their technology level
Their culture
^Yes, but those are explicitly referred to as estimates, beliefs, and hearsay. They're aware of the Ferengi without having met them firsthand. After all, there are other societies in the galaxy. The Federation had heard about the Ferengi at second and third hand for years before actually meeting them. The episode makes that quite clear.
After all, look at how the Ferengi behaved in "The Last Outpost." Similarly to Balok in "The Corbomite Maneuver," the DaiMon tried to make himself look big and scary and act intimidating on the viewscreen, to conceal the fact that his people were actually small and physically unthreatening. They wanted to have a frightening reputation that preceded them. They wanted people to tell stories of how dangerous they were. That's presumably the source of the rumors mentioned in "Encounter at Farpoint" about the Ferengi eating their clients.
After all, look at how the Ferengi behaved in "The Last Outpost." Similarly to Balok in "The Corbomite Maneuver," the DaiMon tried to make himself look big and scary and act intimidating on the viewscreen, to conceal the fact that his people were actually small and physically unthreatening. They wanted to have a frightening reputation that preceded them. They wanted people to tell stories of how dangerous they were. That's presumably the source of the rumors mentioned in "Encounter at Farpoint" about the Ferengi eating their clients.
I didn't realize there was such a notion. It was always clear from "Farpoint" and "The Last Outpost" that they were known of, just not yet met face-to-face.
Fannish notions often ignore what is shown in the episodes.
HHmmm, no one has mentioned Montana to me in while. Is it still a state?
Its still a state, and will remain so -- unless Tyson has plans to "Pluto" it.
The first "Dwarf State" will be Rhode Island.HHmmm, no one has mentioned Montana to me in while. Is it still a state?
Its still a state, and will remain so -- unless Tyson has plans to "Pluto" it.
Wouldn't it be Puerto Rico? Having many properties in common with a state, but not considered an actual state?
I was thinking in terms of being "demoted".
Which, of course, it wasn't. When Pluto was a planet, it was an afterthought, the last and least of its category. Now, it's the first and biggest and most important of a brand-new category that we're only beginning to discover -- and that vastly outnumbers the classical planets. I call that a promotion. It's like a boxer or weightlifter who's been in too high a weight class finally being reassigned to a class where they can be competitive. Just because it's a lighter class, that doesn't make it inferior.
The quote marks are there for a reason.
Washington, D.C.
^ But it should be a state. "Taxation without representation" and all that.
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