Mythyme - precisely.
Since T'Pol's emotions were close to the surface, she always seemed sympathetic to those who explored those, which is why she tried to mind meld. The Panar syndrome conundrum was explained quite well in the 4th season Vulcan arc. The evolution of Vulcan behaviour from xenophobic arrogant assholes to the Vulcans we know and love by Spock's time is a journey we were going to see in the series. That was pretty obvious from day one and developed through the four year run. The Trellium allowed T'Pol tp access her emotions more readily and she experimented with the drug and it gave her some kind of emotional high she was willing to explore until she realised that she had become addicted. Having known many friends who were addicted to various things and watching them become a casualty of such, I thought T'Pol's addiction was played pretty well, for Hollywood, anyway..As far as the Seventh.. that guy was totally playing with her head because he knew that the Vulcan High Council had messed with her head and he was doing everything to get under her skin to get away scott free. That was the point of the whole episode.
I will not be pushed filed, stamped, briefed .... Oh, you get the idea. I think you're wrong.
It's easy for her to release her emotions, thus it's easy for her to explore them. She indicated previously in too many scripts to quote them all here that her Mindf*ck (Fusion), fallora (The Seventh) and Pa'naar (Stigma) were forcing her to explore her emotions. She felt fear and heard jazz ... and even liked it.
I'll take snippets of your other posts and hope I got everything you think is relevant for context. Feel free to chastise me otherwise.
The point of this isn't, "What does __ think happened," but "they are lame because there are continuity errors that were never explained." For example, your comment about T'Pol above is fact, without really any supposition.
By the way, I really like Berman and Braga and think they receive way too many tomatoes from Trekkies.
Cell ship - It was likely left on Earth for study.
How do we know?
Archer's "I lived there all my life statement": My last girlfriend was born in upstate NY and lived all her life in Hallendale, FL. You were from Boston but now live on the West coast..How's that possible?? Your life is a continuity violation by your logic!!
Commie comment: I was born in Missouri. I never say I'm from there. I say I'm from Texas and Florida (and now Portland). In fact, people typically won't qualify with "I lived there all my life" unless they really did. More likely they would say, "I've lived there pretty much my whole life" or "almost my whole life" or "about my whole life." When you give absolutes, you mean it.
Trip's comment about being in the STC, but never having graduated: STC and SA aren't the same organization. One could go through one without the other.
Was this documented somewhere and I missed it?
Hoshi was a white knuckle space traveller.
I hate to fly, but I am still a bad ass!!
More than just that. She's a white knuckle liver -- she hates the UV suit, space travel, gets flustered when speaking with Klang .... This chick was in academia too long. Although -- I don't know b/c they never clarified it.
Maybe it's a mix of continuity errors and never following up. And I think that's a problem too.
Well, how can anyone even discuss this, if you consider anything they say to be "non-canon?" That's just silly and counterproductive to the discussion!!
I like your double exclamation points!!! (I raised you one!) The point of this discussion - at least my thinking isn't - "Make up a reason for continuity errors." Although, I think that would be an interesting new thread. I have a few. This discussion is more -- how come there are some and did it bother you? Or - use what happened to show Commie she's wrong. Your comment about T'Pol, in my mind, was very much of that nature.
Fact: Archer has brown hair.
Fact: Archer has green eyes.
Opinion: He probably got those traits from his mom. (We don't know -- we've never seen her.)
Facts is how I "roll." That doesn't mean to say you can't continue arguing your opinion. GalleryWest would come down on my like a load of bricks if I said otherwise. And your opinion is welcome.
The Bible isn't meant to be much more than a couple of bullet items per person. It is up to the writing team and the producers to develop the character over the run of the series. DS9 had a similar bible and the characters are barely sketched out. Additionally some of the points covered in the bible were never in the show!! I don't think the writers "didn't care." The writers tried things that served the story. Some things worked, some didn't, but after all said and done, continuity wasn't as much of an issue as a serious lack of envelope pushing inspired concepts which the series totally lacked. We come to find out much later that it was a network suit issue, more than a lack of creative drive on behalf of the producers. People would only love to blame Berman and Braga for a rainy day, but the facts of the matter say otherwise.
Yes. My point is -- I don't think they knew their own characters. And Braga's latest interview kinda underscores that to me. He and Berma indicate they were rushed into Enterprise. Too bad.
