Why is the Trek community so negative about Voyager?

There is much to admire in DS9. But which modern Trek show has the characters I love the most, and the actors I find the most charming, and the premise I find the most resonant, and the stories I find, again and again, the most moving?

VOYAGER!

 

Voyager had some excellent stories.

The problem to me was simply the show's production. Had Voyager been produced, relative to characters and character airtime, similar to TNG and DS9, it would have been a better show. I liked it, and think it was good, but certainly not a great show.

 

.......but in all fairness, with the amount of shows created every year by every network how many TV shows really do qualify as "great" honestly? IMO Voyager was a way better show than we got from HEROES, V, often more engaging that the Stargate spin-offs and better produced than B5. So yes, I agree it was a good show and often times better than many of the other sci-fi shows created today.

 

What the hell happened to this thread? I leave it for a few months and it just dies.

QFT. VOY might not be my favorite Trek show, but it's hands down better than most stuff thrown at audiences.

 

I love the opening post in this thread, which essentially states that the typical trekkie wears glasses and is either obese or sickly thin. Classic.

That said, I like VOY a lot and a friend of mine considers it the very best Trek series.

 

Thanks for the heads up!

Apparently the OP was just too buff to be a Trekkie.

 

Have I posted in this thread? Well, if it's back I'll just say "I enjoyed Voyager for what it was"

 

Allow me to introduce him to fellow poster & bodybuilder RAMA.

 

Hey, this thread's back!

Can I state, for the record, that I do wear glasses, smell funny, and am socially inept? There's got to be at least a few of us out there who resemble the "Trekkie" stereotype.

(Not to mention a Trek RP group that recruited me at a comic convention once were a fairly scary group of human beings. I never called any of em back.)

 

I would like to see some pictures of this fellow, to prove he's not a "typical Trekkie".

But anyways, the negativity to VOY these days has died down since it's main opponent (NuBSG) fizzled out rather poorly and it's attempts at making a franchise of its own have failed thus far too. Plus, seeing how easily it could have been worse (SGU) always defused things a bit.

Not to say there weren't problems, I myself had problems with it at the conceptual level.

 

Yep, they live in their parent's dark damped basement all day wacthing porn when there is no Trek on TV. They stink up the basement foul oder of BO, fart, and manjuice.

 

.....but seriously, what is the deal with so many fanboys and bad hygene?

 

Voyager is my least favorite of the various Trek series, but there's still a lot I enjoy about it.

 

Well, I think the Voyager forum community has made me revisit and like the show more than before I got here. I mean I've always been a Voyager fan (Followed it probably more closely than DS9 when they were on) but I really like the community in this forum to the point where my mood always seems to shift to Voyager more than other trek series. I mean my favorite is TNG, and I'm in a TNG rewatch, but I come to this forum and start getting into a Voyager mood to the point where I continued my Voyager rewatch last week and finished Season 2 finally. Now the next two episodes are Future's End and there was a thread about those two a few weeks back, so I'm looking forward to revisiting it even though I've seen it countless times before.

There were issues with Voyager, sure, but there were issues with all the Star Treks. Overall though, I ignore those issues because the good (Actors, episode) far outweigh the bad.

 

Well, one clerk in a store, does not a community make. I think RAW just needed to get out more.

 

This thread will never die.

 

Tomalak301's post made me realize that I've definitely got a better appreciation for Voyager thanks to this forum. If it wasn't for this place, I probably wouldn't have felt such a need to watch it in the first place. I might have watched a few of the Spike TV episodes, but wouldn't have gone ahead with my full-on watching project.

 

I feel the same way about ENT. Just because a show may be the weakest of the series, doesn't mean it's terrible or doesn't have its own redeeming qualities. I just enjoy it for what it is.

 

Apparently not. Strangely impressive.

 

Voyager arguably did better in the long run than SG: Atlantis as well, and it was certainly overall better than Enterprise and Heroes (both four seasons long shows had perhaps one and a half seasons of good to excellent content, the rest of it being mediocre or shit).