People who don't watch Trek don't understand Trek and fear it. Out of this ignorance and fear, they ridicule those who are fans. The vicious reality of life as a human being.
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Why is liking Trek a "nerdy" thing?
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TheLonelySquire
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I was watching one of the many dating shows on MTV (the one where the person's parents are with you) and a chick turned down a guy just because he liked Star Trek and told him it was "nerdy." I'm like, that's a dumb reason, he could of been a great guy for that girl.
I know someone who is dating a girl who likes Star Trek and he doesn't think anything like that of her, so why are some people like this?
Trek is long-lasting franchise with many fans and is quite possibly one of the best things to watch on TV (of course, next to Smallville & Supernatural) just because someone likes Star Trek is not a reason to turn them down on a date, unless they hate the show themselves, I say.
The chick will probably end up being someone else's worst nightmare anyway. Cool chicks like Trek!
Maybe, but then he would have been stuck with her.
Whenever people look down on me for liking Star Trek, I point out that Stephen Hawking is a fan. It shuts up people who read and confuses people who don't.
that is sorta of how i look at it.
there are some people comfortable with having a very limited view of the world and their expectations of it.
star trek puts out a lot of what could be scenarios.
I guess the way I look at it is, would I reject a woman simply because she likes watching soap operas??
It's true though, some people still regard Trek as a geek thing - despite the fact that the millions they make with the movies indicates not only geeks see them!
It's true though, some people still regard Trek as a geek thing - despite the fact that the millions they make with the movies indicates not only geeks see them!
What?? I thought it was a Hippie thing!
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CaptainHawk1
Commodore
This I disagree with totally. Men and women dismiss each other initially for a myriad reasons that are much more inconsequential. That's human nature and there's nothing wrong with it. That's why everyone is on their best behavior when they first start dating someone because they don't want to screw it up with an off-color comment, choosing the wrong restaurant, a bad haircut, not having your clothes pressed, not pulling a chair out, noticing other members of the opposite sex, being the fan of the wrong football team, talking about religion, or politics, etc.
You shouldn't bring up your devotion to Star Trek until you get to know someone. As I said before, you should give somebody a chance to know you first before they're exposed to your fandom so that they're not just seeing their preconceived notion of the undriven scifi fan.
It's unfair to suggest that there's something wrong with a girl because she initially dismisses a guy for being a Trek fan and Trek fans have no one else to blame for that but themselves for allowing the idiot 10% of the fans to make the rest of us look bad.
-Shawn
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I believe the Trek fandom is the first to become widely known (by the general public) for obsessing over minutiae in a little watched 60s science fiction television show. Trek fans became the poster child, the very personification and reason for the term, "nerd". But it was kind of cool to be a nerdy Trek fan back at the end of the 60s, going into the 70s.Trek is long-lasting franchise with many fans and is quite possibly one of the best things to watch on TV (of course, next to Smallville & Supernatural
But some time in the 70's, I believe starting with Shatner's "get a life" joke on SNL (at the time, the barometer of counter culture hipness), the coolness began to go negative. And isn't it ironic that the very reason Shat was on was because most of the SNL cast and writers (the guys anyway), were Trek fans. Back then, anything that appeared on SNL was almost automatically considered "cool".
Then that movie, "Trekkies" came out and people began to view Trekkies as weird, creepy and definitely crazy. Then there was that woman who was on a famous jury in the early 90s who came to court in a Starfleet uniform everyday, and who we found out later, did the same thing at her job as well as insist on being called, "Commander".
The fact is that today it seems its okay to make fun of Trek fans because it seems its okay for everyone or anyone to look down on us. I mean, it seems like Star Wars geeks, Rings geeks, superhero geeks, etc., can all say, "I may be a ______ geek, but at lease I'm not a Trekkie, those guys are REAL dorks".
J.J. Abrams (and Paramount) is coming against all this and the dude has his hands quite full.
See I find it's the other way - people will say "that's shit" and leave it like that, it's fans who try and badge people with "you really must watch this, no honestly if you give it a try..."
It probably all spawned from the convention culture there is for star trek. The stereotypical trek fan was then thought of as some nerd who watches star trek in a starfleet uniform made by his mother with vulcan ears and learns klingon.
Things change from being nerdy to being cool and vice versa all the time though.
Computer games used to be nerdy but are now cool.
Lord of the rings used to be read by "nerds" but is now cool.
Harry Potter is supposedly cool however I can see it becoming "nerdy" in the future.
At the end of the day if someone doesnt like you because of the tv programmes you watch theyre not worth knowing. Star Trek is in my opinion one of the best shows on tv and is infinitely better than a lot of the trash on tv at the moment.
I'd have to say that in my experience in the UK there isn't really such a hugely nerdy thing I know a lot of people who watch star trek and even some of the most popular guys in my high school really like star trek although I'm not sure if they ever mentioned star trek to anyone other then people they knew were trek fans. I remember one conversation about star trek I had with one of the most popular people in high school which was probably the 'nerdiest' conversations I have ever had.
Things change from being nerdy to being cool and vice versa all the time though.
Computer games used to be nerdy but are now cool.
Lord of the rings used to be read by "nerds" but is now cool.
Harry Potter is supposedly cool however I can see it becoming "nerdy" in the future.
At the end of the day if someone doesnt like you because of the tv programmes you watch theyre not worth knowing. Star Trek is in my opinion one of the best shows on tv and is infinitely better than a lot of the trash on tv at the moment.
I'd have to say that in my experience in the UK there isn't really such a hugely nerdy thing I know a lot of people who watch star trek and even some of the most popular guys in my high school really like star trek although I'm not sure if they ever mentioned star trek to anyone other then people they knew were trek fans. I remember one conversation about star trek I had with one of the most popular people in high school which was probably the 'nerdiest' conversations I have ever had.
Liking Trek doesnt make you a nerd, but many people who like Trek are very nerdy about it.
You've obviously never met my brother.
As to your comments though, I know several Trek fans, and not one of them has ever tried to impose their interest on others. We usually just talk Trek among ourselves.
I was once actually called an Idiot (not by my brother) for liking Trek.
That was 1986.
First, what are you doing watching any of those beyond ridiculous dating shows on MTV? I won't even be in the same room with my wife when MTV is on it's so offensive.I was watching one of the many dating shows on MTV (the one where the person's parents are with you) and a chick turned down a guy just because he liked Star Trek and told him it was "nerdy." I'm like, that's a dumb reason, he could of been a great guy for that girl.
I know someone who is dating a girl who likes Star Trek and he doesn't think anything like that of her, so why are some people like this?
Trek is long-lasting franchise with many fans and is quite possibly one of the best things to watch on TV (of course, next to Smallville & Supernatural
I really don't know why you're surprised, though. All of those shows have nothing but completely superficial, borderline retarded wanna-be starlets, anyway. I mean haven't you noticed on that show that all of the lines are scripted and these cocker spaniels are a step below pornstars when trying to act?
-Shawn
I wasn't really watching it. It just happened to be on while I was flipping channels. It caught my attention because I'm a fan, and like I mention a friend's girlfriend is a fan, and I know another chick who is a fan and is married.
I know those shows aren't the best to watch either, but it just bothered me that someone would turn someone down over a TV show instead of who the person is. She must have low self-esteem about herself.
This whole story reminds me of something I saw in a sitcom fairly recently. I can't for the life of me remember what the sitcom was, but I'm pretty sure it was within the last few years. The female protagonist's friend is an actress, so she has her agent do a casting call for likely dates for protagonist. They're all together in the same room, and protagonist basically treats it as an elimination contest. She tricks a couple of the guys by starting a bit from Monthy Python and the Holy Grail, which they continue, only to be eliminated for knowing it. The funny thing here was that protagonist knew the bit herself....
CaptainHawk1
Commodore
Could be but most of the girls on those shows are under 21 to begin with so like I said, they're borderline retarded. again, though, if you're a young guy you're an idiot for telling a girl you're a Trek fan on the first date.First, what are you doing watching any of those beyond ridiculous dating shows on MTV? I won't even be in the same room with my wife when MTV is on it's so offensive.I was watching one of the many dating shows on MTV (the one where the person's parents are with you) and a chick turned down a guy just because he liked Star Trek and told him it was "nerdy." I'm like, that's a dumb reason, he could of been a great guy for that girl.
I know someone who is dating a girl who likes Star Trek and he doesn't think anything like that of her, so why are some people like this?
Trek is long-lasting franchise with many fans and is quite possibly one of the best things to watch on TV (of course, next to Smallville & Supernatural
I really don't know why you're surprised, though. All of those shows have nothing but completely superficial, borderline retarded wanna-be starlets, anyway. I mean haven't you noticed on that show that all of the lines are scripted and these cocker spaniels are a step below pornstars when trying to act?
-Shawn
I wasn't really watching it. It just happened to be on while I was flipping channels. It caught my attention because I'm a fan, and like I mention a friend's girlfriend is a fan, and I know another chick who is a fan and is married.
I know those shows aren't the best to watch either, but it just bothered me that someone would turn someone down over a TV show instead of who the person is. She must have low self-esteem about herself.
Thanks for beating me to the punch and pointing this out. Shatner was promoting TVH on that episode and this gives the whole Star Trek Geekdom a full decade longer to lodge itself into the American Psyche. It goes to show that the phenomena of the stereoypical Trek fan had a much longer history than was suggested,
-Shawn
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